<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2955355765700339376</id><updated>2011-06-07T23:14:23.506-07:00</updated><category term='Persecution'/><category term='Marriage'/><category term='Christian Parenting'/><category term='Church Life'/><category term='Christian Living'/><category term='Christian Women'/><category term='Theology Applied'/><category term='Reformed Perspective'/><category term='Christian Music'/><category term='Great Blog Posts'/><category term='Blogs'/><category term='Blog Move'/><category term='Children in ministry'/><category term='Websites'/><category term='Current issues'/><title type='text'>Urban Theologians</title><subtitle type='html'>Searching God's Truth, in God's Word, for God's people</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>Lionel Woods</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01043784392293311580</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>28</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2955355765700339376.post-438737929518746071</id><published>2008-12-22T19:21:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-12-22T20:14:06.266-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Kingdom of Men or Kingdom of God: How Your View of Diversity Defines Your Kindgodm</title><content type='html'>I remember my pro black days. Back when I was reading books like "From Niggas to Gods" or "Message to the Black Man", and even books like "Psychic Trauma". All of these books expressed one idea. The idea of ethnocentricity. It was a social awakening. Coming from a drug infested family, in a drug infested community, even myself being involved heavily in dealing crack cocain and heroine this books gave me a purpose of "self" a purpose of "identity" and even helped me view "black" people as an important part of not only America but the black conscience throughout the world. Especially with the history of Egypt and its contritubtions to the world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I remember feeling proud of my African heritage, I even felt most races to be inferior to my own race. The white man was the devil. Had perpertrated all types of evil while the black man, before slavery that is, had brought knowledge, peace and the beauty of blackness to the entire eastern hemisphere.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Its funny where life takes you. I give you a short background that leads up to this quote by Dr. Greg Boyd:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;As we learn to think, feel and act under God's rule, we learn how to get our&lt;br /&gt;worth, significance, and security from Christ alone. We learn how to be freed&lt;br /&gt;from our addiction to futilely trying to acquire worth, significance, and&lt;br /&gt;security for ourselves. We learn how to walk in freedom from violence,&lt;br /&gt;self-centeredness, materialism, &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;nationalism, racism&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;and all other false ways of getting life&lt;/blockquote&gt;As I read this quote my mind ran back over all the reasons for slavery, wars, segregation, Jim Crow and Civil Wars. I find a common thread through them all. They all have to do with ethnocentricity, which is a direct result of having a Kingdom of the World mentality versus the Kingdom of God. What makes one superior to the other is my own value and worth in something I really have no control over.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You see we say "my birthright makes me superior to you, and since I am superior my view of God and culture are correct". However, Jesus says this "because I created all cultures distinct and unique and placed infinite value and the Imago Dei in each of them EVERY culture has value to bring to the table". Not only that as Christians we understand the central point, of all history is Jesus the Christ and He is the substance of all things, and as Paul says in Colossians "all things were created by Him and for Him". Thus the only thing that is superior is the Gospel and the only race that counts is Christian and God in His goodness has allowed for us to keep our distinct cultures as long as they do not intrude upon the Gospel of Jesus Christ. You see as Dr. Boyd so eloquently put it this is a Kingdom Issue.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So when somone says this is the right way to worship God and it is influenced heavily by one's culture and not the Gospel what they do in essence is reduce God to an idol! They take the infinite God and mold an image of Him, but clothe Him in theological jargon. Our value doesn't come from God, regardless of how well our seminaries and theological books tell us, our value comes from our cultural view of God and we say "you must come through our paticular culture if you want to have a REAL relationship with God". This is exactly what those who refuse to filter culture through the cross say.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I close with this, those who refuse to accept diversity and even pursue say to God "we don't care that you created these other cultures because ours is correct". Many will shake their head at such a statement while simultaneously only inviting their paticular culture and way of doing church to the table. Others must submit to this culture or find themselves as univited guest to the theological banquet. Others may think they are getting a voice there because they use a little slang or may have a different complexion to their skin; however, they sound like, talk like, and read the same books that the superior culture tells them to read. To read anything else is to read inferior works, to think differently about Jesus and the Church is woefully inadequate and to say we too have a right view of God is to invite a theological rebuke.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The reason why diversity does not exist is because the Kingdom of God has been redefined and replaced with the Kingdom of Men, yes the bible is used, and yes many would disagree but at the end of the day when we tell others our view of God and the Church is correct while yours is wrong by filtering the Church through ones on culture we only perpetuate a problem that plagues the Body of Christ!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2955355765700339376-438737929518746071?l=urban-theologians.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/feeds/438737929518746071/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2955355765700339376&amp;postID=438737929518746071' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/438737929518746071'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/438737929518746071'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/2008/12/kingdom-of-men-or-kingdom-of-god-how.html' title='Kingdom of Men or Kingdom of God: How Your View of Diversity Defines Your Kindgodm'/><author><name>Lionel Woods</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01043784392293311580</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2955355765700339376.post-1955787483942899728</id><published>2008-01-28T12:04:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-01-28T12:06:26.535-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Blog Move'/><title type='text'>Phase Out</title><content type='html'>Over the next month I would like to phase this site out. The blogs posted here will be moved to&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.blackandreformedministries.com/"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;www.blackandreformedministries.com&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Tyris Blog is here: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.thinkchristians.blogspot.com/"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;www.thinkchristians.blogspot.com&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Lionels Blog is here: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.anunveiledface.wordpress.com/"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;www.anunveiledface.wordpress.com&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Please check them out. Thanks for your understanding and patience!&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2955355765700339376-1955787483942899728?l=urban-theologians.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/feeds/1955787483942899728/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2955355765700339376&amp;postID=1955787483942899728' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/1955787483942899728'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/1955787483942899728'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/2008/01/phase-out.html' title='Phase Out'/><author><name>Lionel Woods</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01043784392293311580</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2955355765700339376.post-1085435459189679987</id><published>2008-01-23T10:01:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2008-01-23T10:01:29.785-08:00</updated><title type='text'>One Lord, One Faith and One Baptism. Piper sets the Record Straight</title><content type='html'>&lt;div xmlns='http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml'&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;object height='350' width='425'&gt;&lt;param value='http://youtube.com/v/rTY-9FY13kw' name='movie'/&gt;&lt;embed height='350' width='425' type='application/x-shockwave-flash' src='http://youtube.com/v/rTY-9FY13kw'/&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;There is a current movement that is attempting to bridge the gap between Islam and Christianity. We have to understand that there is not a shred of compatability. We are not brothers and we don't serve the same God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Christians have to be bold to stand on the truth of the Gospel. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2955355765700339376-1085435459189679987?l=urban-theologians.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/feeds/1085435459189679987/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2955355765700339376&amp;postID=1085435459189679987' title='36 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/1085435459189679987'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/1085435459189679987'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/2008/01/one-lord-one-faith-and-one-baptism.html' title='One Lord, One Faith and One Baptism. Piper sets the Record Straight'/><author><name>Lionel Woods</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01043784392293311580</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>36</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2955355765700339376.post-2179078292380044263</id><published>2008-01-19T23:37:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2008-01-19T23:37:54.393-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Any thoughts on this Video?</title><content type='html'>&lt;object width="425" height="355"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/-4kr4AuZa2s&amp;rel=1"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="wmode" value="transparent"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/-4kr4AuZa2s&amp;rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2955355765700339376-2179078292380044263?l=urban-theologians.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/feeds/2179078292380044263/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2955355765700339376&amp;postID=2179078292380044263' title='8 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/2179078292380044263'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/2179078292380044263'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/2008/01/any-thoughts-on-this-video.html' title='Any thoughts on this Video?'/><author><name>Mr. Horton Sr.</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/08830056301269346510</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_63geb05jnuU/R5WZXOVyAFI/AAAAAAAAAIc/iKqxzvnoCIc/S220/2008-2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>8</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2955355765700339376.post-895781193842775242</id><published>2008-01-18T13:09:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-12-11T02:21:29.872-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Reformed Perspective'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Christian Living'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Theology Applied'/><title type='text'>Premature Judging</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MCXSHKUOLoc/R5EY7SmuwwI/AAAAAAAAAEo/GgI6cylmvf4/s1600-h/faith.jpg"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5156930455201563394" style="FLOAT: left; MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; CURSOR: hand" alt="" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MCXSHKUOLoc/R5EY7SmuwwI/AAAAAAAAAEo/GgI6cylmvf4/s320/faith.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;My sister in Christ Jenn has done us Christians a great favor by writing her latest post. It is simply outrageous and gut wrenching convicting. I literally had to stop and repent after reading it and really check my heart and theology. As I thought about the beautiful and liberating doctrine of "Justification by Grace through Faith" I literally shuttered as I thought over the last few weeks and how judgemental I had become. I would say they can't be of the faith because they: listened to that, or watched this, or wore that, or talked like that or did this, or acted like that. I so easily forgot that we are not moralist and our salvation nor righteousness can, will, or ever has rested in ourselves. Our righteousness is found in another man. His name is Jesus Christ and He lived the life, died the death, and beared the sin, that I could not and maybe would not even if I could. God became a man and took on the wrath that was stored up for us. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;I forget sometimes that my salvation is in a person. As long as He stands I stand and since it is impossible for Him to fall, then my standing is secure and so is the person stuggling with lying, stealing, sexual immorality, lust, impatience, rudeness, self-righteousness, selfishness and other such sins. We are all guilty ourselves and as Jennifer says "what about the tree in my eye". I would add the tree that I am busy hitting people over the head with trying to help them get the splinter out of their eyes. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;Please read her post &lt;a href="http://www.lifeinreturn.com/?p=285#comments"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. Please contribute to conversation as we grow in this critical area of our relationship with Christ. .&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;Here is an excerpt:&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Yesterday, during a conversation with a sister in Christ, I was checked on&lt;br /&gt;something that has been on my mind for the past few days. In the past, up til&lt;br /&gt;now, I have been too quick to use snapshots to determine the authenticity of a&lt;br /&gt;person’s relationship with Jesus Christ. This sister and I were discussing a&lt;br /&gt;coworker who has a penchant for filthy language.&lt;br /&gt;Her - You know, he cusses a&lt;br /&gt;lot. I don’t like that.Me - I KNEW there was something that made me think he&lt;br /&gt;wasn’t a Christian.Her - That doesn’t mean he isn’t a Christian. There ARE&lt;br /&gt;Christians who cuss.&lt;br /&gt;It made me think - Yes, all believers are in different&lt;br /&gt;levels of their sanctification, and while we are called to be &lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Matthew+5%3A48" target="_blank"&gt;perfect&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=1+peter+1%3A14-16" target="_blank"&gt;holy&lt;/a&gt;, we’re not, and we very much so &lt;a href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Romans+3%3A23" target="_blank"&gt;fall&lt;br /&gt;short&lt;/a&gt;. And what if someone were to look at snapshots of MY life ? There are&lt;br /&gt;many moments where my behaviors don’t reflect the Lord Jesus. I am in no way&lt;br /&gt;proud of it, but it’s true. I have had moments of anger and various other sinful&lt;br /&gt;behaviors, where if someone were to see me in those moments, they’d probably&lt;br /&gt;assume I was one who didn’t know the Lord! In this, I’m convicted, especially in&lt;br /&gt;light of the Matthew 7 Scripture I referenced above.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2955355765700339376-895781193842775242?l=urban-theologians.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/feeds/895781193842775242/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2955355765700339376&amp;postID=895781193842775242' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/895781193842775242'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/895781193842775242'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/2008/01/premature-judging.html' title='Premature Judging'/><author><name>Lionel Woods</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01043784392293311580</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MCXSHKUOLoc/R5EY7SmuwwI/AAAAAAAAAEo/GgI6cylmvf4/s72-c/faith.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2955355765700339376.post-518648060702827543</id><published>2008-01-16T14:15:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2008-01-16T14:24:23.311-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Church Life'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Great Blog Posts'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Christian Parenting'/><title type='text'>Some Great Posts I read this morning.</title><content type='html'>&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;Church Membership&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Check out why Chruch Membership is not only beneficial but biblical. Pastor Thabati gives one of the clearest and biblically centered approaches &lt;a href="http://purechurch.blogspot.com/2008/01/mutual-belonging-as-local-church.html#links"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;Vision for your Family&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Check out my man Quicy at Truth in the Innermost as he discusses a biblical vision for your children. This is simply amazing. You have to also read Tony Carter's response as he adds a point of making that vision rest on the person and work of the Lord Jesus Christ. Read it &lt;a href="http://truthintheinnermost.blogspot.com/2008/01/where-there-is-no-prophetic-vision.html"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;The Primary Purpose of the Church&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Check out John MacArthur over at Pulpit Magazine as he discusses what people look for in a church and what the primary goal of the church is &lt;a href="http://www.sfpulpit.com/2008/01/16/inward-upward-or-outward/#more-1144"&gt;here.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think you will be edified by each of these. Why reinvent the wheel when you can just help it roll faster?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2955355765700339376-518648060702827543?l=urban-theologians.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/feeds/518648060702827543/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2955355765700339376&amp;postID=518648060702827543' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/518648060702827543'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/518648060702827543'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/2008/01/some-great-posts-i-read-this-morning.html' title='Some Great Posts I read this morning.'/><author><name>Lionel Woods</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01043784392293311580</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2955355765700339376.post-4700245301447261958</id><published>2008-01-14T14:58:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-12-11T02:21:30.488-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Church Life'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Christian Living'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Theology Applied'/><title type='text'>Holistic Outreach: Is it bringing people into a sinking ship?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MCXSHKUOLoc/R4vpYSmuwvI/AAAAAAAAAEc/w-a18Xxkijg/s1600-h/sinking+ship.jpg"&gt;&lt;img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5155470801976083186" style="DISPLAY: block; MARGIN: 0px auto 10px; CURSOR: hand; TEXT-ALIGN: center" alt="" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MCXSHKUOLoc/R4vpYSmuwvI/AAAAAAAAAEc/w-a18Xxkijg/s320/sinking+ship.jpg" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I had a very good conversation with someone today and wanted to share some afterthoughts on this. Amongst Urban Evangelicals the conviction for community outreach, has become a growing concern. As young Christians move from the ministry philosophy of many of their parents which they feel was the “if you want to know Jesus come to my church” philosophy to the “church without walls” philosophy I wonder if some things have been lost in the transition.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We first have to understand that the human race is always and I do mean always in danger of going from one extreme to the other. For example a person who thinks that reaching the lost is critical, will employ any and all methods to reach the lost or the unchurched thus the birth of the “Seeker Sensitive” model. Or the person who may have a Calvinistic evangelistic mindset may never do any type of invitation and thus miss opportunities to “biblically” evangelize. Another example is the fact of holiness and how legalism becomes the compass of “true Christianity” while on the other hand liberty takes the form of a lack of biblical church discipline. I can think of many instances in my life from everything from cessasionism to other positions that I took as I left the Charismatic arena in which my pendulum swung so far that I almost couldn’t identify the Holy Spirit if He sat next to me at lunch. So once again extremes lurksin the shadows for many of us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I want to focus on the perspective of outreach in this short exhortation. I am not a pastor, nor do I understand (practically, not theoretically) the life of a Shepherd. So I am not throwing stones just engaging. As we wrestle with reaching the community that we worship in Corporately what should be the health of the church before such an exploration takes place. If marriages are crumbling, congregants are involved in all types of sin, the majority of the congregation has a low view of God and a high view of man, and if the church doesn’t understand the high calling of biblical church membership (which some people disagree with) should we be attempting to “reach out” without first reaching in? Is God displeased if we took a year or two off to help build the local fellowship and invest in families and biblical faithfulness and then go out to try to help others?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A picture came to my mind as I was talking with the individual. It would be like you pulling people into a ship that is sinking. Is our witness before the community and the world primarily how we live out the Gospel in our lives or reaching out to the community abroad with programs? What is funny is that as I read through Acts and the Epistles and even the Gospels, Jesus, nor the Apostles main focus was not holistic outreach but holistic in-reach. I think we are challenged to provide for the widow and orphan, but I think the primary widow and orphan are those within the Body of Christ. We can see that as Paul addresses widow care in his epistle to Timothy. I think we can do more harm than damage to the body if we focus our energy, time and resources in building the community abroad without first using the resources to build the community within.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That may seem “four wallish” but I think I can make a biblical case for it. As Paul is raising funds for the poor in Jerusalem it was for the poor believers, as people sold their goods in Acts it wasn’t so that the community abroad could have “all things in common” but that the believers could have “all things in common”. The Apostle Paul did not exhort the Churches he wrote to to reach out, but to love each other within. I think we can easily lose focus on what and for whom Christ died. It wasn’t for holistic ministry but for reconciliation. I am not saying churches should not reach out and if the resources are available, especially for mega-churches, then go for it. But I don’t think that the local body should get the scraps from the table while we invest in schools and community outreach programs. I don’t think we should charge those who give frequently for a marriage conference when we take those same dollars to help buy books for the community. That is only my opinion but I think there is some validity there.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If we spend our time rebuilding the city while simultaneously ignoring those within our local fellowship, I think we will continue the trend of nominal Christianity. People aren’t being properly discipled because they are busy painting houses and not being ministered to. Many pastors and leaders aren’t even equipped to deal with the major problems many Christians face within their congregtions Christ has granted them charge over, so we substitute keeping busy for biblical ministry. Many of our brothers are struggling with pornography, don’t have a clue how to disciple their families (I wrestle with this in my own life greatly) and have no clue about biblical manhood, but they are busy working within the body. Many of our women don’t understand their roles as women in a Christian marriage, can’t really reproduce other Godly women and are struggling relating to their teenage daughters, but they are busy organizing outreach events.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This isn’t the case for all churches but I know what I have seen across many ethnic and socioeconomic ministries. We are failing at succeeding at what God calls us to do, in the name of reaching the community, which I can’t find biblical where God spends a bunch of time discussing in the scriptures. I think if we want holistic ministries they must start from within. As the brother I talked to said “Get the families inside healthy, then they can aid in getting those outside healthy”. God bless. &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2955355765700339376-4700245301447261958?l=urban-theologians.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/feeds/4700245301447261958/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2955355765700339376&amp;postID=4700245301447261958' title='5 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/4700245301447261958'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/4700245301447261958'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/2008/01/holistic-outreach-is-it-bringing-people.html' title='Holistic Outreach: Is it bringing people into a sinking ship?'/><author><name>Lionel Woods</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01043784392293311580</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><media:thumbnail xmlns:media='http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/' url='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_MCXSHKUOLoc/R4vpYSmuwvI/AAAAAAAAAEc/w-a18Xxkijg/s72-c/sinking+ship.jpg' height='72' width='72'/><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2955355765700339376.post-8438798180508295014</id><published>2008-01-10T09:53:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-01-10T09:55:39.567-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Websites'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Reformed Perspective'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Theology Applied'/><title type='text'>Recapturing the Doctrine of the Priesthood of Believers!!!!</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-family: Helvetica"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt; &lt;a href="http://anunveiledface.wordpress.com/files/2008/01/priest.jpg" title="priest.jpg"&gt;&lt;img src="http://anunveiledface.wordpress.com/files/2008/01/priest.thumbnail.jpg" alt="priest.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://anunveiledface.wordpress.com/files/2008/01/priest.jpg" title="priest.jpg"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://anunveiledface.wordpress.com/files/2008/01/priest.jpg" title="priest.jpg"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Helvetica"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;As I read the &lt;a href="http://theologica.blogspot.com/2008/01/discipline-of-discernment.html#comments"&gt;Between Two Worlds blog&lt;/a&gt;, my heart was moved to write this blog. This specific post was about Tim Challies and his new book. &lt;span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;Follow the thread and you will see what I mean. Phrases such as “what qualifies him” and other such phrases were cast at will. I started to wonder about the spirit of the pre-reformation and there wasn’t much difference here. One quote from someone was “does a man need a doctorate degree to write a book, it isn’t like he is an accountant writing on biology”. This is my sentiments exactly. When did we lose the doctrine of the &lt;u&gt;“Priesthood of &lt;b&gt;ALL &lt;/b&gt;Believers”?&lt;/u&gt; &lt;span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;I thought the veil was torn about 2000 years ago and I also thought the heart and soul of the Reformation was for “every man to have a bible in his/her hand”. Has what our forefathers of the faith died become vain? &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Helvetica"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Helvetica"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Helvetica"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;Here is a quote from Tim Challies blogger &lt;a href="http://www.challies.com/"&gt;(here)&lt;/a&gt; and the author of the book “&lt;a href="http://www.challies.com/my-book.php"&gt;Discipline of Discernment&lt;/a&gt;”:&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Helvetica"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Helvetica"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Helvetica"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;“Yet it is a strange contradiction that those who identity most closely with the Protestant Reformation seem often to be those who are most prone to forgetting about the priesthood of all believers. This idea, that God offers His truth to all believers through His Word, is a defining characteristic of Protestantism but one that continues to make Christians uncomfortable. Though many give it verbal assent, it is still easier to simply find and trust certain teachers, always giving them the benefit of the doubt. “I am of Paul! I am of Apollos!” can become “I am of MacArthur! I am of McLaren!” We can take comfort in another person’s position, believing that only a truly godly man could rise to become the Senior Pastor of a large church, or we can take comfort in another person’s credentials, assuming that a man with so many degrees and accolades must be right. Yet all the while the Bible commands each of us to do the hard work of discernment and to realize that we are all called to pursue and obey the truth.”&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Helvetica"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;font size="3" face="Times New Roman"&gt; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size="3" face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Helvetica"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;We must ask ourselves some serious questions if this isn’t our heart! Are we not able to question those in “authority” anymore, can a laymen write a book , start a church, or do we&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;need 10 years of Seminary and another 2 in church planting? Is Tim not qualified to write a book but qualified to start a bible study, lead a home group, or even disciple his family? Which has greater weight? Listen very carefully, if we don’t stop this hogwash, we will soon find ourselves in the same position of those who were oppressed by Rome! &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Helvetica"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Helvetica"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Helvetica"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;Now what I am not saying is that seminary isn’t important. I think there are tools gained (especially the languages and hermeneutics) that are invaluable to any pastor on the planet. However, they are not, BY ANY BIBLICAL STANDARD, prerequisites. It really chaps my hide when I hear the same individuals screaming “Sola Scriptura” from the rooftops but in the same breath they are saying “Westminster plus your bible, or Fuller plus your bible, or Southern plus your bible, or DTS plus your bible”. For me this flies in the face of the 5 Solas! &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Helvetica"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Helvetica"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Helvetica"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;Peter says it very clearly in 1 Peter 2:&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;font size="3" face="Times New Roman"&gt; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 9.5pt; line-height: 135%"&gt;&lt;font face="Verdana"&gt;9 &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 9.5pt; line-height: 135%"&gt;&lt;font face="Verdana"&gt;10 &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;Once you were not a people, but now you are God's people; once you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;font size="3" face="Times New Roman"&gt; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Helvetica"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;Nowhere does it say “you need a formal education to proclaim these Excellencies”. So I wonder are churches not preparing their members to be dropped on an Island with their bible and start a movement. If every member (at least those who have been around for at least a year) can’t be in a plane crash on a remote Island and plant a church, that means there is something wrong with the leadership there. If that person has to wait until someone with a seminary degree comes along to plant a church there we are in serious trouble. This is why I think the book is important and not only that, even historical. A blogger writes a book! That should be a motivation for all bloggers (though, I don’t even know proper sentence structure half the time so don’t count me in). &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Helvetica"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Helvetica"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Helvetica"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Helvetica"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;But this isn’t about a book this is about, your right to question anything coming from anybody! This is about JV versus Varsity Christianity where now we are beginning to become top heavy again. Where laymen are overlooked and pastors are esteemed. Where education comes before wisdom and a passion for the “Glory of God in all things”. We have lost our footing along the way. We have begun to esteem the very things that Christ and the Apostles spoke against. We are doing it all in the name of “qualification”. Each member of the body is fully capable of starting a movement as long as their motive is pure and they have a good grasp of the scriptures and how they fit together and point to Christ. I am thoroughly upset that this isn’t the heart of the Church! I pray that this doesn’t continue because if it does, we may need another reformation in the near future! &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2955355765700339376-8438798180508295014?l=urban-theologians.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/feeds/8438798180508295014/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2955355765700339376&amp;postID=8438798180508295014' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/8438798180508295014'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/8438798180508295014'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/2008/01/recapturing-doctrine-of-priesthood-of.html' title='Recapturing the Doctrine of the Priesthood of Believers!!!!'/><author><name>Lionel Woods</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01043784392293311580</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2955355765700339376.post-686657255264827681</id><published>2008-01-09T22:22:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-01-09T22:24:56.596-08:00</updated><title type='text'>The Gospel?</title><content type='html'>&lt;object width="425" height="355"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/ZLV4zjfwQxY&amp;rel=1"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="wmode" value="transparent"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/ZLV4zjfwQxY&amp;rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is the stuff that brings shame to the Gospel.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="425" height="355"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/yE8Y8DxPcbU&amp;rel=1"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="wmode" value="transparent"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/yE8Y8DxPcbU&amp;rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have this book in my library and I think I might read it tonight-enjoy.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2955355765700339376-686657255264827681?l=urban-theologians.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' 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src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_63geb05jnuU/R5WZXOVyAFI/AAAAAAAAAIc/iKqxzvnoCIc/S220/2008-2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>5</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2955355765700339376.post-3865496855384143203</id><published>2007-12-24T00:20:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2007-12-24T00:21:36.227-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Mark Driscoll</title><content type='html'>&lt;object width="425" height="355"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/s_MLUuNKjZU&amp;rel=1"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="wmode" value="transparent"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/s_MLUuNKjZU&amp;rel=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2955355765700339376-3865496855384143203?l=urban-theologians.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' 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src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_63geb05jnuU/R5WZXOVyAFI/AAAAAAAAAIc/iKqxzvnoCIc/S220/2008-2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>54</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2955355765700339376.post-142852661795932080</id><published>2007-12-18T18:46:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2007-12-18T18:47:14.128-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Free Inserts for Christmas Cards</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;My Pastor Jim Elliff and some of his associates have some great Biblical materials for free. I plan on printing some of these out and putting them in Christmas Cards when I send them. Very good material-God Bless&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here is the &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.bulletininserts.org/"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Link&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2955355765700339376-142852661795932080?l=urban-theologians.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/feeds/142852661795932080/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2955355765700339376&amp;postID=142852661795932080' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/142852661795932080'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/142852661795932080'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/2007/12/free-inserts-for-christmas-cards.html' title='Free Inserts for Christmas Cards'/><author><name>Mr. Horton Sr.</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/08830056301269346510</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_63geb05jnuU/R5WZXOVyAFI/AAAAAAAAAIc/iKqxzvnoCIc/S220/2008-2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2955355765700339376.post-970051266799256133</id><published>2007-12-18T08:31:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2007-12-18T08:32:15.568-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Christian Living'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Theology Applied'/><title type='text'>The New Phariseeical Movement</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://anunveiledface.wordpress.com/files/2007/12/pharisee1.jpg" title="pharisee1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img src="http://anunveiledface.wordpress.com/files/2007/12/pharisee1.jpg" alt="pharisee1.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="background: white; margin: 5pt 0px; line-height: 135%; text-align: justify" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;font size="3" face="Times New Roman"&gt;This is a gut checking blog to write, due to the fact that I too once was on the New Pharisee team. The truth be told the majority of us have a little Pharisee within us, and it is not all that bad. My pastor Dhati Lewis always says “it is better to err on legalism than sin”. So for those of us who struggle with the tension of holiness and sanctification we are always dancing on thin ice. My problem isn’t so much with personal legalism because as Paul says in Romans 14 “&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;For whatever does not proceed from faith is sin&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;”. So, once again, this is not an attack on the conscious of others, but a response to an ongoing epidemic of a different kind of legalism. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="background: white; margin: 5pt 0px; line-height: 135%; text-align: justify" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;font size="3" face="Times New Roman"&gt;The legalism that I am addressing is doctrinal legalism. It is a growing epidemic among us and especially in the blogosphere. There are many blogs, whose entire premise or existence is to police the doctrine of others. I am all for correct doctrine, and for the most part, I think I have a pretty good grasp on some points, but in other areas I am “Semper Reformanda” (or always reforming). I hold to a reformed and New Covenant (sort of) perspective and for the most part I think I am right; however, others do not and they, as I do, believe themselves to be correct. I think these things can be debated, but as I always say “the end goal is edification”. When it gets to the point where harsh words, strawman assumptions, and self-righteousness takes precedent of mutual edification, the line has officially been crossed and sin has begun to take root. The problem is that most can’t recognize that this type of Doctrinal Witch Hunt is SIN. The other problem lies, in the fact, that most people (especially bloggers) don’t want to establish a relationship, they just want you to believe like they believe and then they are off to the next person to “correct” their theology. What happens in the process, is that feelings our hurt, people get upset, and those who practice such “Doctrinal Elitism” are wreaking more havoc than they know. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="background: white; margin: 5pt 0px; line-height: 135%; text-align: justify" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;font size="3" face="Times New Roman"&gt;Think of this scenario. Just say a world class physician, decides he wants to go and help cure diseases in Sub-Sahara Africa. There is a disease that is killing 20-25% of these villages and this doctor has found the cure. So he goes to the villages enthused that he has the cure and eager to help cure their epidemic. So he goes from village to village treating everybody and not only that he has the anti-bodies to prevent others from getting it. Everyone is excited, he is on CNN, FOX News, Dr. Phil, Oprah, and gets a key to every city he visits. The problem is 1 year later all the people in that area have died. There is uproar, the doctor is confused. He checks his medicine everything looks good, the anti-bodies and medicine has been approved by FDA and is on the market in the U.S and everyone is taking the vaccination. They found one last person who has escaped the death but he is about to die also, doctors rush to find out what has caused the deaths, and they found out, that is a common cold! So the doctor, though he helped one epidemic caused even greater fatality by a common cold! This is what is going on today, in many churches, and by many bloggers. We fixed the doctrinal epidemic but we are killing people with our arrogance, self-righteousness, and lack of desire to establish significant relationships, all in the name “correcting theology” &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="margin: 0px" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;font size="3" face="Times New Roman"&gt;Though, I said this was new, it really isn’t new at all. I just thought the title was catchy. This is a problem that has existed for over 2000 years. Let’s see what happened in Jesus’ day:&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font size="3" face="Times New Roman"&gt; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;Matthew 15&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;font size="3" face="Times New Roman"&gt;15:1 Then Pharisees and scribes came to Jesus from Jerusalem and said, &lt;/font&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font size="3" face="Times New Roman"&gt;2 “Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders? For they do not wash their hands when they eat.” &lt;/font&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font size="3" face="Times New Roman"&gt;3 He answered them, “And why do you break the commandment of God for the sake of your tradition? &lt;/font&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font size="3" face="Times New Roman"&gt;4 For God commanded, ‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘Whoever reviles father or mother must surely die.’ &lt;/font&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font size="3" face="Times New Roman"&gt;5 But you say, ‘If anyone tells his father or his mother, “What you would have gained from me is given to God,”  &lt;/font&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font size="3" face="Times New Roman"&gt;6 he need not honor his father.’ So for the sake of your tradition you have made void the word of God. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font size="3" face="Times New Roman"&gt;7 You hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy of you, when he said: 8 "'This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me; 9 in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.'" 10 And he called the people to him and said to them, “Hear and understand: &lt;/font&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font size="3" face="Times New Roman"&gt;11 it is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person.” &lt;/font&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font size="3" face="Times New Roman"&gt;12 Then the disciples came and said to him, “Do you know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this saying?” &lt;/font&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font size="3" face="Times New Roman"&gt;13 He answered, “Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be rooted up. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font size="3" face="Times New Roman"&gt;14 Let them alone; they are blind guides. And if the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit.” &lt;/font&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font size="3" face="Times New Roman"&gt;15 But Peter said to him, “Explain the parable to us.” &lt;/font&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font size="3" face="Times New Roman"&gt;16 And he said, “Are you also still without understanding? &lt;/font&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font size="3" face="Times New Roman"&gt;17 Do you not see that whatever goes into the mouth passes into the stomach and is expelled? &lt;/font&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font size="3" face="Times New Roman"&gt;18 But what comes out of the mouth proceeds from the heart, and this defiles a person. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font size="3" face="Times New Roman"&gt;19 For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;20 These are what defile a person. But to eat with unwashed hands does not defile anyone.”&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font size="3" face="Times New Roman"&gt; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="background: white; margin: 5pt 0px; line-height: 135%; text-align: justify" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;font size="3" face="Times New Roman"&gt;We all know the story. The Pharisees spent there time trying to find some crack in Jesus’ theology. This is how Luke puts it in Luke 11:&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="background: white; margin: 0px; line-height: 135%; text-align: justify" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 9.5pt; line-height: 135%"&gt;&lt;font face="Verdana"&gt;53 &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;As he went away from there, the scribes and the Pharisees began to press him hard and to provoke him to speak about many things, &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 9.5pt; line-height: 135%"&gt;&lt;font face="Verdana"&gt;54 &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;lying in wait for him, to catch him in something he might say.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="background: white; margin: 0px; line-height: 135%; text-align: justify" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;font size="3" face="Times New Roman"&gt;I see the same attitude and desire in many of blogs today and blog searchers. They wait “to catch” someone in doctrinal error. This should not be our goal. I have come to the conclusion that the only person I totally agree with on every point of doctrine, is myself, and I have corrected myself many of times. Things that I said three years ago, I wouldn’t dare say today. Positions that I held to as stone have become like sand between my fingers. Things I would debate with great passion, are now the same truths I embrace with like passion. We make mistakes, we say dumb things, and other times we just don’t know what the heck we are talking about. The problem is WE ALL have been that way. But the same grace Jesus has extended us in progressively revealing His word to us, we refuse to extend to others. There were things that I rejected that I now fully embrace and Jesus was merciful to me. He sent people into my life, that built relationships with me (B.J, Shannon, Calvin Clark, Dhati, Keynon) and helped me through my error. They weren’t rough or hard, and they even let me have the last word. It wasn’t “believe this today” they understood my hang ups and when I was ready to accept it, they taught me again, like I never heard it before. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="background: white; margin: 0px; line-height: 135%; text-align: justify" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="background: white; margin: 0px; line-height: 135%; text-align: justify" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;font size="3" face="Times New Roman"&gt;That isn’t the goal today for many. They can find everything wrong and nothing right. Just as the Pharisses only agreed with their “traditions” so many of us, put greater emphasis on doctrinal truth rather than a passion for the Glory of Jesus Christ, this shouldn’t be. You see, if we get the correct perspective of grace, the cross, and redemption, these other truths will follow closely behind. If we are more concerned with “our doctrinal truth” than we are God’s glory, we have lost the meaning of redemption. Listen closely. GOD DOES NOT TREAT US THIS WAY. He takes us, all jacked up and slowly conforms us to the image of His Son. Christ or the Holy Spirit, does not wait with a bat in Their hands ready to beat us, because we don’t fully understand soteriology, pnuematology, eschatology, trinitarianism, bibliology, hamartiology, ecclesiology, or even Christology. What God does is “demonstrates, His love towards us, while we were yet sinners”. God is patient with our progression and conformity and guess why, because He is the one who conforms us! &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="background: white; margin: 0px; line-height: 135%; text-align: justify" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="background: white; margin: 0px; line-height: 135%; text-align: justify" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;font size="3" face="Times New Roman"&gt;If you are reading this and this seems like you, impatient, unkind, always finding fault, you may want to evaluate your own progression. How long did you sit under “bad theology”? How long was it before you were convinced on truths you now hold as gold? What about certain sin areas? How long did you struggle with lust, envy, unforgiveness, or impatience before you got it right. Paul penned it beautifully in 2 Corinthians 13 when he said “&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;examine YOURSELVES&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;”. It is funny that Paul didn’t say examine others. Paul also says “&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;who are you to pass judgment on another man’s servant&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;” in Romans 14. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="background: white; margin: 0px; line-height: 135%; text-align: justify" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;Finally we must ask, what is the goal of my correction of others? Is it to help them have a better understanding of the truth of the gospel, or the win an argument? Is it to establish a relationship with someone in order to help them be conformed to the image of Christ? People use Paul as an example, but as my good friend Gabriel always points out is “Paul had a relationship with the majority of the people he wrote”. These were responses to churches he had planted, and you can tell by the fatherly love he permeates by his letters. The Pharisees, only wanted to put yokes of bondage on their followers. Jesus says “my yoke is easy”. What a contrast of yokes. You must examine your motives and if the end goal isn’t that of Christ, what you are doing is sinning against your brother.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2955355765700339376-970051266799256133?l=urban-theologians.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/feeds/970051266799256133/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2955355765700339376&amp;postID=970051266799256133' title='7 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/970051266799256133'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/970051266799256133'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/2007/12/new-phariseeical-movement.html' title='The New Phariseeical Movement'/><author><name>Lionel Woods</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01043784392293311580</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>7</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2955355765700339376.post-2705290725764402567</id><published>2007-12-16T23:01:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2007-12-16T23:08:25.168-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Free Books</title><content type='html'>Lionel graciously bought some books from John Piper's ministry. I have a couple of copies left from the stash he sent me. If anyone would like a free copy. Please email me or him with your address and I will send you a copy. God Bless in Christ&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src="http://fundyreformed.files.wordpress.com/2006/08/see-and-savor.JPG" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;tlhorton80@hotmail.com&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2955355765700339376-2705290725764402567?l=urban-theologians.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/feeds/2705290725764402567/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2955355765700339376&amp;postID=2705290725764402567' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/2705290725764402567'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/2705290725764402567'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/2007/12/free-books.html' title='Free Books'/><author><name>Mr. Horton Sr.</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/08830056301269346510</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_63geb05jnuU/R5WZXOVyAFI/AAAAAAAAAIc/iKqxzvnoCIc/S220/2008-2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2955355765700339376.post-3177626933949129534</id><published>2007-12-14T15:42:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2007-12-14T15:42:30.360-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Eddie James Ministries singing I AM</title><content type='html'>&lt;div xmlns='http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml'&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;object height='350' width='425'&gt;&lt;param value='http://youtube.com/v/BGJA-ebB6y8' name='movie'/&gt;&lt;embed height='350' width='425' type='application/x-shockwave-flash' src='http://youtube.com/v/BGJA-ebB6y8'/&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Now these brothers are a bit Charismatic, but boy we sing this song at our church and it is beautifully penned. It is John 8:58 at its finest! What a Christ Centered song. The brother even properly took the type of Christ and the Ram for Abraham. Whoa!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2955355765700339376-3177626933949129534?l=urban-theologians.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/feeds/3177626933949129534/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2955355765700339376&amp;postID=3177626933949129534' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/3177626933949129534'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/3177626933949129534'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/2007/12/eddie-james-ministries-singing-i-am.html' title='Eddie James Ministries singing I AM'/><author><name>Lionel Woods</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01043784392293311580</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2955355765700339376.post-914215979099674561</id><published>2007-12-13T08:55:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2007-12-13T08:56:29.833-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Persecution'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Christian Living'/><title type='text'>Should Churches Have Armed Guards?</title><content type='html'>&lt;p style="margin: 0px" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;font size="3" face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;a href="http://anunveiledface.wordpress.com/files/2007/12/fox_rack_x480-g4.jpg" title="fox_rack_x480-g4.jpg"&gt;&lt;img src="http://anunveiledface.wordpress.com/files/2007/12/fox_rack_x480-g4.jpg" alt="fox_rack_x480-g4.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="margin: 0px" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="margin: 0px" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;font size="3" face="Times New Roman"&gt;I really didn’t want to join this conversation but my heart is torn. So instead of giving you a theological treatise, I would really like to know what you think of the entire matter. Here is my problem; the early church lost their lives in droves, at the hands of angry mobs, and governments that hated Christians. As I read through the New Testament (church age) I see a conflicting position than that of today. So here are my thoughts in bullet format for and against having armed guards.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="margin: 0px" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font size="3" face="Times New Roman"&gt;Against&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;font size="3" face="Times New Roman"&gt;As I read through the New Testament, not once do I see Jesus, the Apostles or anyone else trying to protect their lives as a matter fact they rejoiced that they were able to suffer like Christ (Acts 5:41)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;font size="3" face="Times New Roman"&gt;I think it is hypocritical in two ways. 1. We pray and esteem those who die for the faith and use them as pillars for the faith (including the Apostles and the early Church martyrs). We teach it to our children to get them all hyped and preach it from the pulpit but then we hire security guards to protect our own lives. 2. We don’t send our missionaries armed when we send them out. We understand that there may be a lost of life, but we send them and want them to risk their lives, but once again we protect ours. That seems to be a bit flaky to me. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;font size="3" face="Times New Roman"&gt;It gives mixed signals to the lost. We talk about Christ suffering in one breath and in the other, we don’t want to suffer. If I were a non-believer I would mock Christianity for such hypocrisy. Either we are willing to die for this hope like our King or we are not. If we are not, we might as well shut our doors, because we have decided the life of this world versus the promised one to come is more important. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;font size="3" face="Times New Roman"&gt;I think it is a slap in the face to all of those who went before us. They never, ever defended their lives, but laid it down, we might as well stop reading Christian history and stop making fun of Joel Olsteen. At least he is being honest; we will be proven to be frauds!&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font size="3" face="Times New Roman"&gt; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;For&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;font size="3" face="Times New Roman"&gt;I thought I would have some but the more I thought about it, the less biblical I became. So I only have against. Sorry.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="margin: 0px" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;font size="3" face="Times New Roman"&gt;So those are my thoughts. I would love to hear your perspective. This may be a bit heated, but I think it something we really need to wrestle through, especially in light of being pleasing to our Master and faithful to the hope we proclaim.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2955355765700339376-914215979099674561?l=urban-theologians.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/feeds/914215979099674561/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2955355765700339376&amp;postID=914215979099674561' title='12 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/914215979099674561'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/914215979099674561'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/2007/12/should-churches-have-armed-guards.html' title='Should Churches Have Armed Guards?'/><author><name>Lionel Woods</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01043784392293311580</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>12</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2955355765700339376.post-1524685205935134552</id><published>2007-12-12T17:48:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2007-12-12T17:51:36.150-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Blogs'/><title type='text'>A Frequent Blog: The Old Black Church</title><content type='html'>Hey Ann Brock writes some pretty good stuff. I ask that you check her out. It isn't heavey theology, but they are all pretty provocoative. There hasn't been anything there that I have not wanted to comment on. Very good stuff check her out at&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.theoldblackchurch.blogspot.com/"&gt;www.theoldblackchurch.blogspot.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2955355765700339376-1524685205935134552?l=urban-theologians.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/feeds/1524685205935134552/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2955355765700339376&amp;postID=1524685205935134552' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/1524685205935134552'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/1524685205935134552'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/2007/12/frequent-blog-old-black-church.html' title='A Frequent Blog: The Old Black Church'/><author><name>Lionel Woods</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01043784392293311580</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2955355765700339376.post-793126616605468747</id><published>2007-12-04T00:32:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2007-12-04T01:21:44.083-08:00</updated><title type='text'>New Site</title><content type='html'>&lt;img style="WIDTH: 461px; HEIGHT: 265px" height="265" src="http://www.delta7.com/tools/leading.jpg" width="755" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Lionel and I decided to put some foot work to our words. The intent of the site is to point those of us blacks who absolutely cannot find any solid black churches in our area. Our aim is to point us to Biblically sound churches regardless of the nationality &amp;amp; regardless of race. We will feature sound churches at least one a week in which Lionel or I will call and speak to the pastors of these churches personally and see if they are sound. Once completed we will put them on our Good Churches list and build from there. We also would like to give out free materials to all people that will help better equip the entire body of Christ. Please let us know if you have any information or would like to assist in equipping the Body of Christ. Thanks.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href="http://blackandreformedministries.com/"&gt;New&lt;/a&gt; Site listed Here.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2955355765700339376-793126616605468747?l=urban-theologians.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/feeds/793126616605468747/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2955355765700339376&amp;postID=793126616605468747' title='9 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/793126616605468747'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/793126616605468747'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/2007/12/new-site.html' title='New Site'/><author><name>Mr. Horton Sr.</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/08830056301269346510</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_63geb05jnuU/R5WZXOVyAFI/AAAAAAAAAIc/iKqxzvnoCIc/S220/2008-2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>9</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2955355765700339376.post-2354867263793719756</id><published>2007-11-30T07:02:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2007-11-30T07:03:14.626-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Theology Applied'/><title type='text'>The Lonely Pursuit of Truth in a Postmodern Culture</title><content type='html'>&lt;a href="http://anunveiledface.wordpress.com/files/2007/11/truth.jpg" title="truth.jpg"&gt;&lt;img src="http://anunveiledface.wordpress.com/files/2007/11/truth.jpg" alt="truth.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="margin: 0px" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;Pilate asked this question to Jesus “what is truth” a question that he never found an answer to from what I can find in scripture. Everybody knows the postmodern debate (for the most part) especially amongst those with even a superficial knowledge of the Emergent Church. Today I am not going to attempt to define or even defend truth directly. This is an overflow of the deep despair of my heart due to the lonely pursuit of truth. I believe with every fiber of me that Truth can not be attained apart from Christ. Not that Christ speaks the truth but he fully embodies all that even is true. So Christ is the essence of Truth. The funny thing is that engaging someone for this pursuit and having others join you to help defend and explain it becomes a daunting task. The majority of this problem is birthed out of the fact we live in a non-confrontational era. Where many of the previous societies openly debated and even encouraged such intellectual dialogue today we have pushed all aside for “unity”. Ahh, Unity! What a very tricky and elusive word. What exactly does it look like, on what should we unite for and for what issues do we say, unity is not possible because truth becomes a lifeless victim? Should we unite? The obvious answer is yes, the Apostle Paul makes it clear, in Colossians. Love is the bond of such unity, but what about truth? Does unity and love take precedent over truth; do we slay truth in the great names of love and unity? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="margin: 0px" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;This is where I start to struggle. Naturally I am confrontational and I am an extrovert. Coupled together and sprinkled with passion (some say obnoxious) this can be a real recipe for disaster.&lt;span&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;So there are times where I may go overboard and times where I may just should chalk things up as a lost for the moment and come back at a future time. However, I handle conflict verbally and I process things verbally and I wear my emotions on my sleeve (as they say) so I am usually engaged in some type of theological discussion. I tend to think that this isn’t as bad as most think it is, I was just born 2000 years too late. I think if I were Paul’s homeboy when he debated the philosophers at Mars Hill, how I would have love to sneak a couple of catchy clichés in, or how I would have stood with the great Apollos and Stephen as they debated in the synagogues with the Jews. However, I was not born in those days. I was born in America in an era where everyone’s opinion is truth and the consequences are eternal. Due to this I usually find myself alone; sometimes by choice and other times by exclusion.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="margin: 0px" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;I attempt not to get into these discussions in crowed venues. I have learned that people really don’t like to discuss issues pertaining to eternal life at the family gatherings, basketball games, and even in small groups. We would rather play it safe and talk about things I deem to be fairly irrelevant to life, such as: who is going to win the National Championship (if I knew I would have bet my savings on such knowledge), Kanye West’s mothers dying (very sad, but doesn’t matter for us), or which entertainer or entertaining preachers are getting divorced. The truth is I don’t really care. But I do care about the greatest question ever asked “what must I do to be saved”. Most of the pertinent News becomes secondary in light of the Cross and what I want to discuss is the wonderful truths of scripture and their application to life transformation. I want to know, do you know for sure where you will spend eternity and how. I also want to know how this salvation is obtained; and that is when I figure out that Britney Spears and K-Fed or Tyler Perry is much more important. Typically I find myself disengaged from the conversations at most dinner tables, even with gathering Christians. I read Acts 2:42 and wonder why they were so in love with this new found faith and we are so disinterested in it. I wonder why they purposely got together to fellowship and intentionally encourage one another in the great truths of the Christian faith and we would rather talk about Lebron James or Michael Vick.&lt;span&gt;   &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="margin: 0px" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;Why is Jesus such off limits and why is scripture always secondary? It is because of our newly found enemy truth! He has become a problem, a major party pooper, a thorn in the flesh. Most people just want to live never confronting, never addressing the seriousness of his existence and the responsibility to respond to him (truth that is). So now we say “unity at all cost, truth is impossible”. All the while hell is filling up with the souls (and eventually bodies) of people we would rather unite with versus discuss truth. As I stated this occurs in my small groups. Christians would rather stay away from scripture and truth as if now they are saying “I can finally let my hair down and relax”. Maybe I am too concerned with this “stuff”. I tell you what one thing about barber shops that I love is the platform to discuss current ideas. It is the perfect opportunity to philosophize about current events, life, death, and the after-life. It is funny that I get more theological discussion out of a barber shop visit than I can in small groups and Christian gatherings. The sole purpose of fellowship should be to discuss “Truth” namely Jesus Christ. Sorry about the rambling.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p style="margin: 0px" class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;So I say all of that to say this. If God has given you an appetite for His truth, pursue it recklessly. As the man who sold all he had to buy the parcel of land. We should have the same mindset. It may be lonely and you may be ignored, I promise you one thing you definitely will not be popular. But so what, a thirsty soul is infinitely worse. Most times a good book a couple of hours with the Lord and articulating that truth brings me the greatest joy. Nothing is more rewarding than seeing someone have an “ah ha” moment. Nothing is more rewarding than being prepared to defend Truth even if you are mocked for such a truth and nothing is more rewarding than “drinking from the well that never runs dry”. Our reward is the truth. While so many are “ever learning, but never coming to the knowledge of the truth” God has graciously revealed His truth to us and given us an unsatisfiable thirst for more of Him. “What else there besides you oh, Lord” should be our heart and whatever comfort we forfeit in this life will be given with great interest in the life to come. Truth is a gracious gift from God; pursue it as an invaluable treasure!&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2955355765700339376-2354867263793719756?l=urban-theologians.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/feeds/2354867263793719756/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2955355765700339376&amp;postID=2354867263793719756' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/2354867263793719756'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/2354867263793719756'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/2007/11/lonely-pursuit-of-truth-in-postmodern.html' title='The Lonely Pursuit of Truth in a Postmodern Culture'/><author><name>Lionel Woods</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01043784392293311580</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2955355765700339376.post-7410315372582046394</id><published>2007-11-27T14:08:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2007-11-27T14:29:29.206-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Marriage'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Christian Living'/><title type='text'>How Christian Couples Can Prevent Dissension in Our Homes: Marriage Series Part 1</title><content type='html'>&lt; &lt;a href="http://anunveiledface.wordpress.com/files/2007/11/couple_argument2.jpg" title="couple_argument2.jpg"&gt;&lt;img src="http://anunveiledface.wordpress.com/files/2007/11/couple_argument2.jpg" alt="couple_argument2.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This was a very helpful article for me, it was written over 300 years (isn't it amazing the wisdom God gave the puritans). Way too many Christian Marriages are ending in divorce, way too many Christian Couples despise one another, and way too many Chrisitan marriages are doing the Body of Christ and the testimony of our faith great harm. Read this with a humble heart and wherever it addresses you respond accordingly. God bless&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 13.5pt; color: red"&gt;Directives for avoiding dissension in the home&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;by Richard Baxter&lt;br /&gt; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;It is a great duty of husbands and wives to live in quietness and peace, and avoid all occasions of wrath and discord. Because this is a duty of so great importance, I shall first open to you the great &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue"&gt;NECESSITY&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/strong&gt;of it, and then give you more particular directions to perform it.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;(1) Your discord will be your pain, and the vexation of our lives. Like a disease, or wound, or fracture in your own bodies, which will pain you until it is cured; you will hardly keep peace in your minds, when peace is broken so near you in your family. As you would take heed of hurting yourselves, and as you would hasten the cure when you are hurt; so should you take heed of any breach of peace, and quickly seek to heal it when it is broken.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;(2) Dissension tends to cool your love; frequent dissension tends to leave a habit of distaste and averseness on the mind. Wounding is separating; and to be tied together by any outward bonds, when your hearts are separated, is but to be tormented; and to have the insides of adversaries, while you have marital outsides. As the difference between my 'home' and my 'prison' is that I willingly and with delight dwell in the one, but am unwillingly confined to the other; such will be the difference between a quiet and an unquiet life, in your married state; it turns your dwelling and delight into a prison, where you are chained to those calamities, which in a free condition you might flee.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;(3) Dissension between the husband and the wife, disorders all other family affairs. They are like oxen unequally yoked--which can perform no work, because they are always striving with one another.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;(4) It exceedingly unfits you for the worship of God; you are not fit to pray together, nor to confer together of heavenly things, nor to be helpers to each other's souls. I need not tell you this, you feel it by experience. Wrath and bitterness will not allow you so much exercise of love and holy composedness of mind, as every one of those duties requires.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;(5) Dissension disables you to govern your families aright. Your children will take example by you; or think they are at liberty to do what they desire, when they find you taken up with such animosity between yourselves. They will think you unfit to reprove them for their faults--when they see you guilty of such faults and folly of your own. Nay, you will become the shame and secret derision of your children, and bring yourselves into contempt.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;(6) Your dissensions will expose you to the malice of Satan, and give him advantage for manifold temptations. A house divided cannot stand; an army divided is easily conquered, and made a prey to the enemy. You cannot foresee what abundance of sin you put yourselves in danger of. &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;By all these reasons, you may see what dissensions between husband and wife do tend to.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;DIRECTIVES for avoiding dissension in the home &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color: blue"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;(1) Keep up your marital love in a constant heat and vigor. Love will suppress wrath. You cannot become bitter upon small provocations, against those whom you dearly love; much less can you proceed to reviling words, or to averseness and estrangedness, or any abuse of one another. Or if a breach and wound be unhappily made, the balsamic quality of love will heal it. But when love once cools, small matters exasperate and breed antipathy.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;(2) Both husband and wife must mortify their pride and passion, which are the causes of impatience; and must pray and labor for a humble, meek, and quiet spirit. A proud heart is troubled and provoked by every word or action that seems to tend to their undervaluing. A peevish, proud mind is like a sore and ulcerated member--which will be pained if it be touched. He that must live near such a sore, diseased, impatient, proud mind--must live even as the nurse does with the child, that makes it her business to rock it, and lull, and sing it quiet when it cries; for to be angry with it, will do no good. And if you have married one of such a sick or childish temper, you must resolve to bear and use them accordingly. But no Christian should bear with such a malady in themselves; nor be patient with such impatience, pride and haughtiness in themselves. Once get the victory over yourselves, and the cure of your own impatience, and you will easily keep peace with one another.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;(3) Agree together beforehand, that when one is in a tempestuous, angry fit, the other shall silently and gently bear it--until it be past and you have come to your senses again. Do not both be angry at the same time. When the fire is kindled, quench it with gentle words and demeanor, and do not cast on more fuel, by answering provokingly and sharply, or by multiplying words, and by answering wrath with wrath.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;(4) If you cannot quickly quench the anger in your heart--yet at least refrain your tongues! Speak no reproachful or provoking words. Talking hotly and angrily does blow the fire, and increase the flame. Be but silent, and you will the sooner return to your serenity and peace. Foul words tend to more displeasure. As Socrates said when his wife first railed at him, and next threw a vessel of foul water upon him, "I thought when I heard the thunder, there would come rain"; so you may foretell worse following, when foul, unseeming words begin. If you cannot easily allay your wrath, you may hold your tongues, if you are truly willing.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;(5) Let the sober party condescend to speak gently and to entreat the other. Say to your angry wife or husband, 'You know this should not be between us; love must allay it, and it must be repented of. God does not approve it, and we shall not approve it when this heated argument is over. This frame of mind is contrary to a praying frame, and this language contrary to a praying language; we must pray together soon; let us do nothing contrary to prayer now. Sweet water and bitter come not from one spring,' etc. Some calm and humble words of reason, may stop the torrent, and revive the reason which passion had overcome.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;(6) Confess your fault to one another, when angry passion has prevailed against you; and ask forgiveness of each other, and join in prayer to God for pardon. This will lay a greater engagement on you the next time, to refrain from argument. You will surely be ashamed to do that which you have so confessed and asked forgiveness for--of God and each other.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;If you will but practice these directives, your family peace may be preserved.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2955355765700339376-7410315372582046394?l=urban-theologians.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/feeds/7410315372582046394/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2955355765700339376&amp;postID=7410315372582046394' title='7 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/7410315372582046394'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/7410315372582046394'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/2007/11/how-christian-couples-can-prevent.html' title='How Christian Couples Can Prevent Dissension in Our Homes: Marriage Series Part 1'/><author><name>Lionel Woods</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01043784392293311580</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>7</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2955355765700339376.post-5645081674510546751</id><published>2007-11-21T08:36:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2007-11-21T08:43:22.678-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Reformed Perspective'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Christian Living'/><title type='text'>What Should a Carnal Christian and Non-believer Have in Common?</title><content type='html'>&lt;a title="ff.jpg" href="http://anunveiledface.wordpress.com/files/2007/11/ff.jpg"&gt;&lt;img alt="ff.jpg" src="http://anunveiledface.wordpress.com/files/2007/11/ff.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;They both should fear hell! This may be a very unpopular post due to the huge movement of the “carnal” Christian, who by every standard of scripture is a “non-believing” Christian. This doctrine does the local church and those who live the “carnal Christian” life a great harm. It gives them assurance that they shouldn’t have and it weakens the sanctification and ongoing pursuit of practical holiness in the local church. It has no bearing on the Universal Church, because she is made up of the regenerate and have no fear of hell, because of the finished work of her husband, namely Jesus the Christ. However, those who live in opposition to God’s word as a lifestyle must only be assured of one thing, that they are ENEMIES of God, never given a new heart, and that the wrath of God remains upon them.&lt;span style="font-size:+0;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;My good buddy Tyris and I have been spending some time studying the book of Hebrews and the book has proven to be a book of warnings. The warnings start in Chapter 2 and work their way out throughout the rest of the book. Hitting high points in Chapter 6 and Chapter 10, lets look at Chapter 10:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 135%;font-family:Arial;font-size:9;"  &gt;&lt;strong&gt;26 &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 135%;font-family:Arial;font-size:9;"  &gt;&lt;strong&gt;27 &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;but a fearful expectation of judgment, and a fury of fire that will consume the adversaries&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 135%;font-family:Arial;font-size:9;"  &gt;&lt;strong&gt;28 &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Anyone who has set aside the law of Moses dies without mercy on the evidence of two or three witnesses. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 135%;font-family:Arial;font-size:9;"  &gt;&lt;strong&gt;29 &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;How much worse punishment, do you think, will be deserved by the one who has spurned the Son of God, and has profaned the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has outraged the Spirit of grace?&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 135%;font-family:Arial;font-size:9;"  &gt;&lt;strong&gt;30&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;For we know him who said, “Vengeance is mine; I will repay.” And again, “The Lord will judge his people.” &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 135%;font-family:Arial;font-size:9;"  &gt;&lt;strong&gt;31 &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0px"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;These are common verses used by Armenians to reject the Doctrine of Eternal Security. I can see how Armenians have such a huge problem with this doctrine. OSAS has become a foundation to defend the very dangerous teaching of Carnal Christianity! I believe however that the Armenians have it wrong. They are under the assumption that the individual described here are the regenerate of God. I disagree. The true mark of a Christian is one who perseveres, grows in holiness, loves the body, and lives a life of repentance and brokenness before his Master! &lt;span style="font-size:+0;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;But that is a different argument. I want to dialogue with those who hold to this carnal Christian position. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;The writer makes it clear that those who deliberately sin after understanding the gospel have only one thing to expect “JUDGMENT AND A FURY OF CONSUMING FIRE”. These individuals are put in the same category as an adversary (enemy). The true believer is called a child and in John 5:24 Christ makes clear that “they will never come under judgment”. Listen to me carefully, the carnal Christian is the person, who wants nothing to do with Christ as it comes to his life, he only wants a “get out of hell free” card or what we call Fire Insurance. The only problem is they don’t want to pay the premium. &lt;span style="font-size:+0;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Relationship, reproof, admonishment, discipline, and obedience are far off. He wants to take God on his own terms and God does not bargain! This individual makes a mockery of Christ and his accomplished work on the cross. It is hard for me to read 1 John, Galatians 5, Ephesians 3-4, Colossians 4, Romans 6, 1 Corinthians 5, 2 Thessalonians 1, Revelation and James and not get a clear view that God will deal with those who enjoy disobeying him. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;How someone can say “well they believe the gospel, but they just don’t want to make him Lord” is very puzzling to me. In Romans 6 Paul says:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0px; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 135%; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 135%;font-family:Arial;font-size:9;"  &gt;&lt;strong&gt;20 &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 135%;font-family:Arial;font-size:9;"  &gt;&lt;strong&gt;21 &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;But what fruit were you getting at that time from the things of which you are now ashamed? &lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;For the end of those things is death&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 135%;font-family:Arial;font-size:9;"  &gt;&lt;strong&gt;22 &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;But now that you have &lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the fruit you get leads to sanctification and its end, eternal life&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 135%;font-family:Arial;font-size:9;"  &gt;&lt;strong&gt;23 &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="BACKGROUND: white; MARGIN: 0px; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 135%; TEXT-ALIGN: justify"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:+0;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;I think this comes from a very bad view of Romans 7. Most believe Romans 7 to be the life of a Christian struggling with sin. I disagree with this wholeheartedly. The language in Romans 6 as it relates to freedom and Romans 8 as it relates to not being under the flesh, seems to be clear that Paul is not talking about someone who is a believer, but one trying to live by the law through his own power (the whole argument of Paul from 3-8). But that is also another blog.&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;What I am saying is this. There is not a lick of evidence of a carnal Christian in scripture. Paul tells the Corinthians to examine themselves and he warns the others that those who live in opposition to obedience will not inherit the Kingdom of God. 1 John scores the winning run with a Grand Slam in which the Apostle clarifies what the marks of a true Christian are. I pray that you will read the verses provided and to approach the scripture without your theological presuppositions. The carnal Christian is a common view held among many great teachers, but one I believe is very misleading. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;Final thoughts and Exhortaion&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;If you read this and your life is defined by rebellion against the commands of God, please know that judgment is on the horizon. If your heart is hard against the sweetness of God’s commands, or the commands of God are bitter upon your tongue, it is most likely that you have been given a new heart and that you are not of the family of God. If you teach this doctrine, please search the scriptures before you write me off. No Christian is going to live perfectly but those who have been born again, pursue holiness with reckless abandon! Carrying our cross becomes a daily pursuit and a love for the world becomes hate. God has given us His Spirit and the Spirit is not powerless in our lives. He comes to do more than seal us; He also comes to conform us. There are many warnings in scripture and this one rings loud throughout its pages. I believe the picture above is false teaching based off the clear teaching of scripture. God bless. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2955355765700339376-5645081674510546751?l=urban-theologians.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/feeds/5645081674510546751/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2955355765700339376&amp;postID=5645081674510546751' title='4 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/5645081674510546751'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/5645081674510546751'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/2007/11/what-should-carnal-christian-and-non.html' title='What Should a Carnal Christian and Non-believer Have in Common?'/><author><name>Lionel Woods</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01043784392293311580</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>4</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2955355765700339376.post-182557030327719182</id><published>2007-11-19T14:32:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2007-11-19T14:45:04.483-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Christian Women'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Christian Living'/><title type='text'>Modesty and Christian Women</title><content type='html'>&lt;a title="spicegirls.jpg" href="http://anunveiledface.wordpress.com/files/2007/11/spicegirls.jpg"&gt;&lt;img alt="spicegirls.jpg" src="http://anunveiledface.wordpress.com/files/2007/11/spicegirls.thumbnail.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0px"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;I write this article with great reservation! There is always a thin line between legalism and liberty and I am going to attempt to walk this fine line as biblically as possible. My purpose is not to condemn but to spur others on to good deeds. My hope is that those who read this will read the arguments and scriptures provided and take them before the Lord in prayer and humility. So with no further do, let’s get into it.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0px"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0px"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;As you may well know, the church is influenced by the world. I don’t believe that this is because we have a group of Christians who search out worldly things to mimic. I think it can simply be attributed to the fact that we live in the world, thus, standing out can lead to many misconceptions. Take the Amish for example. Good people, and from what I know are Godly people for the most part. Their distinctive, however, is one of not wanting to be polluted by the world, so they have a lifestyle that reflects such a distinctive. The end result is isolation and different of culture. It would not be hard to identify someone of Amish influence in a downtown Wal-Mart. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0px"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0px"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;As Christians we have the dichotomy of being in the world (John 17:15-18) and not of the world. We are to live a&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;mongst the lost in order to be God’s ambassadors (2 Corinthians 5:20) while not being of the world and its passions (1 John 2:15-17). Most of us will spend maybe 3-4 hours per week with believers and the other 100 plus waking hours with non-believers. Our great adversary understands this and as “roaring lion” seeks to attack us at our weakest moments. Because the majority of our time is spent with those who don’t know God and have no desire to please him, sometimes their worldview rubs off on us. Especially on matters that can tend to be gray such as: movies, music, leisure, and what I am going to address, clothing. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0px"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0px"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;We live in a culture (America) that puts great emphasis on fashion. We spend a lot of time in malls, and department stores, and according to recent information we spend roughly $82 Billion Dollars on clothing a year. We are the most image conscious culture in the world today and as I stated earlier it is not unusual for the “called out ones” to be heavily influenced by the world they live in. We need clothes so that isn’t the problem and looking nice isn’t the problem either. No one want to look like a ragamuffin at work, or out on a nice date so dressing beautifully isn’t the problem. However, there is a problem that is rearing its ugly head, and this problem should not exist among us who called ourselves the elect of God.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0px"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0px"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;During the past 10 years, clothing has begun to shrink as it relates to mass. Shorts are much shorter, skirts are much tighter and sorter, shirts have loss any visible signs of a neck not to mention they are much tighter and shorter, jeans are lower and tighter and dresses now look like either twin bed sheets or night gowns. Not to mention lingerie is now consider professional dress. Walking on a college campus or a mall in the summer can be very for a young man trying to keep his mind pure or desiring to look at a fellow woman as a human versus a filet mignon. The world has made this every difficult. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0px"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0px"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;If you know anything about me, I have no problem with nonbelievers behaving like nonbelievers. I don’t have a problem with 50 Cent, T.I, Britney Spears and others. They are enemies of God and they only do what their father the devil tells them to do. They are under the complete control of the enemy and there is absolutely nothing they can do to help themselves. If it were not for the Grace of God we would be in the same predicament as most prisoners and prostitutes. However, there is a slight difference (satire here). We have been called out (1 Peter 2:9 by God, to be His workmanship (Eph 2:10) for good works. We belong to Christ and are ones who have crucified our flesh and its passions (Gal 5:24). We are to be as aliens on foreign land, and the world is not to have the same influence over us, as it does those who don’t know God (Eph 2:3). &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0px"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0px"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;So the problem I have is not with Beyonce, but with those who consider themselves as part of God’s kingdom. So as a Christian woman goes out into the world to interact with the loss, I believe she is to have a higher since of piety. As young and older women purposefully or inadvertently dress provocatively, the women called of God should stand firm with holiness and modesty being their watchword. However due to the relaxed dress codes in church, which I am the first to say is the best way to go, coupled with worldly influences our churches have become a LANDMINE OF LUST, and it is only a matter of time before one of the brothers lose a limb or his life!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0px"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0px"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;So below are some things to consider as you embark on a journey towards modesty. Those who have a heart to hear from God would at least consider this article as being one of great concern. I pray that you would consider these proposals carefully and with your spiritual lenses on. So here we go……..&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;Does my dress cause others to look at me inappropriately?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0px"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;If you often find yourself offended because someone is looking at your chest while you speak to them instead of your face, or if you are aware of men looking back at you while you pass, then your clothing may not be appropriate. An argument against that I have heard is “well these dudes will look at me this way if I were dressed any other way”. This is a lie from down below! If Jennifer Lopez would have worn the same outfit Mother Teresa wore no one would have been playing her Grammy clip over and over again. Nor would man be running through walls to see Toni Braxton accept her Grammy. Listen, these guys are looking at you for a reason. Unless you have been endowed with Dolly Pardon’s anatomy most men will not stare at your chest as if he was starving to death and he just dropped his chicken down your shirt! Typically what you have on is bringing inappropriate attention to your chest area. Maybe your shirt is to tight and your bra to thin. Or maybe your shirt is too low. Whatever the problem is, most men within the body of Christ don’t want to struggle with staring at your chest there is enough problems battling the enemy to put you on the list. Furthermore if you are getting a lot of stares at your backside maybe you want to find a different designer. Some women have been given bigger bottoms and how the jeans fit on one girl may cause you to be pursued like a surfer with a fresh cut in the ocean.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;Are women tuning their nose up at you? Or do you sense some jealousy?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0px"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;Now this is much easier to discern that a brother lusting after you. Women know women and you know when someone is looking at you like you just took their husband, job, and kids! Men aren’t the only one who struggle, jealousy is brewed due to this also, if not jealousy at leas envy. I hear all the time from women “she knows better than to wear that”. I have seen women blush as some things other women have on. This shouldn’t be in the body of Christ. If you find yourself with no friends or if another sister has approached you to talk about your clothes, then you may have problem. Once again you have never saw anyone raise concerns about the way Condoleezza Rice dress have you. She has not raised an ounce of concern or envy with other women.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;Do you think you are sexy or are you attempting to draw attention to yourself? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0px"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;We have a new fad among professing Christians today, the fad of being sexy. Now how a Christian can want to be labeled sexy from anyone other than their spouse is cause for great concern. You see God left us something with his word and I will provide a couple of verses to help you out:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0px"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;1 Timothy 2:9-10&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0px"&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;9 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;likewise also that women should adorn themselves in respectable apparel, with modesty and self-control, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:+0;"&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;10 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;but with what is proper for women who profess godliness—with good works.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0px"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;I don’t need to explain this one to anyone I hope. I believe the writing is clear. So let us try another few verses&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0px"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;1 Peter 3:1-6&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;3:1 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Likewise, wives, be subject to your own husbands, so that even if some do not obey the word, they may be won without a word by the conduct of their wives, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:+0;"&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 135%;font-size:9;" &gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;2 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;when they see your respectful and pure conduct. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:+0;"&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; LINE-HEIGHT: 135%font-size:9;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;3 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Do not let your adorning be external—the braiding of hair and the putting on of gold jewelry, or the clothing you wear— &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:+0;"&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal; LINE-HEIGHT: 135%font-size:9;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;4 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;but let your adorning be the hidden person of the heart with the imperishable beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which in God's sight is very precious.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:+0;"&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 135%;font-size:9;" &gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;5 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;For this is how the holy women who hoped in God used to adorn themselves, by submitting to their own husbands, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:+0;"&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 135%;font-size:9;" &gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;6 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;as Sarah obeyed Abraham, calling him lord. And you are her children, if you do good and do not fear anything that is frightening.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0px"&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0px"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;Peter takes this a step further. He is dealing with the submissive heart of a wife; however, this should be the standard for all women, as most women will become or has a desire to be wives at some point. Peter says this type of woman is precious in “God’s sight” now I pray that every Christian’s desire is to be precious in the sight of the Master who gave His Son up for us. What a privilege it is to honor Him with more than our lip service, but also with our bodies and minds as Paul states in Romans 12! &lt;span style="font-size:+0;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;The Godly woman is the woman who draws attention to herself for the cause of the Gospel, not to be considered sexy! I don’t know how this one infiltrated the church but it snuck in, because I am usually game to current church trends. I happened to see someone on Sunday’s Best (a knock off American Idol for black Christians) with a sexy belt buckle and I thought to myself, she has no clue what she has been called into (though she may not be a believer). &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;Final thoughts&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0px"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;Paul says this in Romans 14 “&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal;font-size:9;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;13 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Therefore let us not pass judgment on one another any longer, but rather decide never to put a stumbling block or hindrance in the way of a brother” &lt;span style="font-size:+0;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;Listen you may&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;believe that you have the liberty to wear what you please and “everybody else just best get over it”. But that is not the heart of one who has been purchased with the blood of the Lamb. Christ laid down his life to reconcile a heinous and rebellious group of God haters to His Father. How much more should we lay down our lives for one another. Read Philippians 2:1-4 and get the heart of Paul as he writes to that church about inner strife. Listen, if you love your brothers you would do what it takes to serve them and one way to serve them is to but your liberty on the backburner to see him grown in Godliness. This is what is meant by “don’t merely look out for your own interest” yeah what you wear may be jazzy but your brothers spend the next three days in prayer trying not to think about the tattoo you have on your lower back to is visible for the world because of your low rise jeans. Or he is trying not to think about how endowed you are in your chest area because your shirt was a little to snug. We don’t have the same privilege the world has, we have a greater one. We have been set free to serve the Master of the Universe, let’s not subject ourselves again to a yoke of slavery. God bless. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="color:#3366ff;"&gt;Read this from Caroly Mahney a great resource for Christian Women&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a title="modesty.pdf" href="http://anunveiledface.wordpress.com/files/2007/11/modesty.pdf"&gt;modesty.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2955355765700339376-182557030327719182?l=urban-theologians.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/feeds/182557030327719182/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2955355765700339376&amp;postID=182557030327719182' title='7 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/182557030327719182'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/182557030327719182'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/2007/11/modesty-and-christian-women.html' title='Modesty and Christian Women'/><author><name>Lionel Woods</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01043784392293311580</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>7</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2955355765700339376.post-8987221178012757366</id><published>2007-11-13T08:53:00.001-08:00</published><updated>2007-11-13T08:55:46.029-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Christian Living'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Theology Applied'/><title type='text'>The End Result of Theological Debate is Edification</title><content type='html'>&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;&lt;a href="http://anunveiledface.wordpress.com/files/2007/11/debate1.jpg" title="debate1.jpg"&gt;&lt;img src="http://anunveiledface.wordpress.com/files/2007/11/debate1.thumbnail.jpg" alt="debate1.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: none"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: none"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Arial"&gt;Ephesians 4:29-32&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Arial"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 9.5pt"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;font face="Verdana"&gt;29 &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Georgia"&gt;but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 9.5pt"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;font face="Verdana"&gt;30 &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 9.5pt"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;font face="Verdana"&gt;31 &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you, along with all malice&lt;em&gt;&lt;u&gt;. &lt;/u&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 9.5pt"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;font face="Verdana"&gt;32 &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Arial"&gt;2 Timothy 2:24-25&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Arial"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 9.5pt"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;font face="Verdana"&gt;24 &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;And the Lord's servant&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="footnote"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 9.5pt"&gt;&lt;font color="#666666" face="Verdana"&gt; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;must not be quarrelsome&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt; &lt;em&gt;&lt;u&gt;but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil, &lt;/u&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 9.5pt"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;font face="Verdana"&gt;25 &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;correcting his opponents with gentleness&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Arial"&gt;Philippians 2:1-4&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Arial"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span class="chapter-num"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 9.5pt"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;font color="#0066cc" face="Verdana"&gt;2:1 &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;So if there is any encouragement in Christ, any comfort from love, any participation in the Spirit, any affection and sympathy, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 9.5pt"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;font face="Verdana"&gt;2 &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;complete my joy by being of the same mind, having the same love, being in full accord and of one mind. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 9.5pt"&gt;&lt;font face="Verdana"&gt;3 &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;Do nothing from rivalry or conceit, but in humility count others more significant than yourselves. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 9.5pt"&gt;&lt;font face="Verdana"&gt;4 &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;Let each of you look not only to his own interests, but also to the interests of others.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Arial"&gt;Romans 12:9-10&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Arial"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 9.5pt"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;font face="Verdana"&gt;9 &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;Let love be genuine. Abhor what is evil; hold fast to what is good. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 14pt"&gt;&lt;font face="Verdana"&gt;10 &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Georgia"&gt;Love one another with brotherly affection. Outdo one another in showing honor.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: none"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: none"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Arial"&gt;Romans 14:5-10&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 14pt; font-family: Arial"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 9.5pt"&gt;&lt;font face="Verdana"&gt;5 &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 9.5pt"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;font face="Verdana"&gt;6 &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;The one who observes the day, observes it in honor of the Lord. The one who eats, eats in honor of the Lord, since he gives thanks to God, while the one who abstains, abstains in honor of the Lord and gives thanks to God. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 9.5pt"&gt;&lt;font face="Verdana"&gt;7 &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;For none of us lives to himself, and none of us dies to himself. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 9.5pt"&gt;&lt;font face="Verdana"&gt;8 &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;For if we live, we live to the Lord, and if we die, we die to the Lord. So then, whether we live or whether we die, we are the Lord's. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 9.5pt"&gt;&lt;font face="Verdana"&gt;9 &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;For to this end Christ died and lived again, that he might be Lord both of the dead and of the living.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 9.5pt"&gt;&lt;font face="Verdana"&gt;10 &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;Why do you pass judgment on your brother? Or you, why do you despise your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: none"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: none"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="text-decoration: none"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;Above are a lot of verses and this is done for one specific purpose, to show us our sin. Listen people we all have theological differences, but those differences are never to turn ugly. I am on some blogs and people are called STUPID, DUMB, IDIOTS, and they even go as far to call the others doctrine a “doctrine of demons”. This is usually stated by those who oppose The Doctrines of Grace that I so firmly adhere to. We have to be extremely careful of how we address one another as brothers and sisters in this faith. My heart is heavy because this doesn’t bring unity. Listen to what Paul says in Colossians 3&lt;/span&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman"&gt;Colossians 3:12-17&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 9.5pt; line-height: 135%"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;font face="Verdana"&gt;12 &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;Put on then, as God's chosen ones, holy and beloved, &lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;compassionate hearts, kindness, humility, meekness, and patience, &lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 9.5pt; line-height: 135%"&gt;&lt;font face="Verdana"&gt;13 &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;bearing with one another and, if one has a complaint against another, forgiving each other; as the Lord has forgiven you, so you also must forgive. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 9.5pt; line-height: 135%"&gt;&lt;font face="Verdana"&gt;14 &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;And above all these put on love, which binds everything together in perfect harmony.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 9.5pt; line-height: 135%"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;font face="Verdana"&gt;15 &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;And let the peace of Christ rule in your hearts, to which indeed &lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;you were called in one body&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;. And be thankful. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 9.5pt; line-height: 135%"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;font face="Verdana"&gt;16 &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly, teaching and admonishing one another in all wisdom, singing psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, with thankfulness in your hearts to God. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 9.5pt; line-height: 135%"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;font face="Verdana"&gt;17 &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;And whatever you do, in word or deed, do everything in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;Here is the list of don’t do’s that we are given by the Lord and anything that does not line up with this is SIN!!!! To ignore these is to ignore the Lord Jesus and to ignore Him, well you know what the bible says about that:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;Let NO (absolute) corruptive communication &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;Includes: slander, anger, malice and clamor&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;Don’t be quarrelsome! (big one for me)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;Do nothing out of rivalry or conceit&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;We are not to pass judgment on issues of convictions&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;Here is the list of things we are to do (much longer than the don’t do’s)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;Speak in a way that builds up and in the right occasion. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;Teach patiently&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;Look out for the interests of others (selflessness in all occasions)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;Love one another with brotherly love&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;Outdo one another in showing honor (this would kill most mean debates)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;Bear with one another, forgive one another, teach and admonish one another in WISDOM.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;Some key words for you to consider, consider these words carefully and see if your life lines up with them:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;ol&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;Gracious&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;Tenderhearted&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;Kind&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;Patient&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;Gentle&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;Affectionate&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;Sympathetic&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;Encouraging&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;Humble&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;Others focused&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;Meek&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family: Georgia"&gt;This list has more application than just theological debates. Christ embodied this entire list and much more. We are to reflect Christ to a hurting world and we too should be defined by the list above. However, as it relates to theological debate, if you took your discussion and ran it through the list above would you be able to check off every item on the list. Is your debate fruitful and is it a means to a greater end than being right or wrong? It should be, the debate should point a person to Jesus Christ and what He accomplished in His earthly ministry, His current exaltation and His future triumph over Satan! The verses above are commands from the Lord Himself. Not good discussion but His spoken commands that we are to obey. If you can’t follow these in a theological debate then you are to abstain (“if you right eye offends you pluck it out”). We are to abstain from sin at all cost, and if your debate or discussion is unfruitful then you are sinning. Come back when you can argue your points graciously but the current state of theological debate is a hindrance to the Gospel of the Lord Jesus.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2955355765700339376-8987221178012757366?l=urban-theologians.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/feeds/8987221178012757366/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2955355765700339376&amp;postID=8987221178012757366' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/8987221178012757366'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/8987221178012757366'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/2007/11/ephesians-429-32-29-let-no-corrupting.html' title='The End Result of Theological Debate is Edification'/><author><name>Lionel Woods</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01043784392293311580</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2955355765700339376.post-1863163228409625902</id><published>2007-11-12T13:10:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2007-11-12T13:14:20.033-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Theology Applied'/><title type='text'>The False Doctrine of Neutrality: Nursery Rhyme Christianity</title><content type='html'>&lt;a title="nursery.jpg" href="http://anunveiledface.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/nursery.jpg"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;a title="nursery.jpg" href="http://anunveiledface.wordpress.com/files/2007/11/nursery.jpg"&gt;&lt;img alt="nursery.jpg" src="http://anunveiledface.wordpress.com/files/2007/11/nursery.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="TEXT-DECORATION: none"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0px"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;There has been in me a growing concern with those who refuse to preach and teach the wrath of God. The gospel among evangelicals has become increasingly palatable. Making the gospel more appealing to the unregenerate was never, and I do mean never, the goal of Christ or the Apostles. We are continually trying to find ways to make “church” more appealing and thus trying to slide the gospel in while the unregenerate is not looking. This, my friend, is doing a disservice to these individuals and my brother Tyris and I are experiencing the backlash first hand. So below are a few LIES we tell people or ways we STEALTHY present the gospel. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0px"&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;Bypassing the Wrath of God&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0px"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;You would have a better chance of convincing a pastor to preach “butt naked” to a crow of thousands than to have him preach about God’s wrath. In turn God becomes a “Cosmic Santa”. Better yet God becomes a desperate senior 2 days before prom with no date. I have heard things like “you know Jesus longs for you to accept him” or better yet, “heaven is missing one person, you”, or “God wants a love relationship with you”. So once again God becomes the dude on Young and the Restless or the last guy at the club on Valentines Day. This is blasphemous folks. God was, is and will always be self sufficient. God doesn’t need you any more than you need three extra fingers or toes. God has always been fully satisfied in Himself. God didn’t create man, like a kid who creates imaginary friends for affection. He created men for his praise and glory, our very existence is not due to a lack of self esteem but to show forth His glory. Here are a few verses on wrath&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;John 3:34-36&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;34 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;For he whom God has sent utters the words of God, for he gives the Spirit without measure. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;35 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;The Father loves the Son and has given all things into his hand. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;36 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, &lt;u&gt;but the wrath of God remains on him.&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;span style="TEXT-DECORATION: none"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;span style="TEXT-DECORATION: none"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Ephesians 2:1-3&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span class="chapter-num"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#0066cc;"&gt;2:1 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;And you were dead in the trespasses and sins &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;2 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience— &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;3 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="footnote"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#666666;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;and the mind, and &lt;u&gt;were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind.&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;span style="TEXT-DECORATION: none"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Romans 1:18-19&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;18 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;19 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;Preaching Self Esteem versus Hopelessness Apart from Christ&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0px"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;In most churches the sermons that come across the pulpit is more about building a person up and encouraging them. I think that is a good thing, but only if they understand that their worth comes from Christ alone. The lie that people are fundamentally good and not utterly wicked does the receiver much harm. The lie that people are pretty good and that they just lack Jesus is as dangerous as a eating 20 activated grenades. You know what I mean I have heard “man you got a nice house, family, job and things are looking good for you, just accept Jesus and you would have it all”. This man is about as hopeless as a legless man in the middle of the ocean with a 2 ton weight strapped around his neck, with 100 sharks circling beneath him. He is utterly hopeless and his goods are useless. I remember watching the movie the Titanic. These individuals were wealthy and their wealth was display by their jewelry and clothing. Man, when that boat started to sink what was valuable became worthless in an instance. The worth of a priceless diamond ring on the Titanic when it began to sink is the worth you and I have apart from Christ. We are as ants in the ocean. No hope of anything. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0px"&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0px"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;But this isn’t taught today. Christian Counselors, Joel Olsteen, TD Jakes, Dr. Phil, and Oprah, all say that “you are important” regardless of your standing before a Holy God who is going to cast you in to hell upon death. Regardless of the constant rebellion against the creator. Good has become a subjective term while Christ says in Matthew 19 “only God is good” I will add and those who God makes good through Christ. That is why David said ‘blessed is the man who sins are not counted against him”. Romans 3 is a popular verse summing up my statement:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;Romans 3:9-18&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;9 No One Is Righteous What then? Are we Jews any better off? No, not at all. For we have already charged that all, both Jews and Greeks, are under sin,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;10 as it is written: "None is righteous, no, not one;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;11 no one understands; no one seeks for God.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;12 All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;13 "Their throat is an open grave; they use their tongues to deceive." "The venom of asps is under their lips."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;14 "Their mouth is full of curses and bitterness."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;15 "Their feet are swift to shed blood;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;16 in their paths are ruin and misery,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;17 and the way of peace they have not known."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;18 "There is no fear of God before their eyes."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0px"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:0;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;Making Sin a Non-issue&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0px"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;I have twice heard from two separate mega church pastors “I don’t really preach about sin”. Now I will make something very clear. Christ died for the SINS of those being saved! To make sin a non-issue is to make Christ death on the cross irrelevant. Paul says this in 2 Corinthians 5:21&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;21 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0px"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;Gods wrath is a response to man’s wickedness (sin). This is so wrong. A man who will not preach sin is a man who cares less about the eternal state of those who visit his congregation. It would be like a man with a terminal illness and the doctor continually reaffirms his great health. This man will be furious when he is on his death bed, especially after frequent doctor visits. The bible is clear about God’s position on Sin. Check out the flood, Sodom and Gomorrah and other such outpouring of God’s wrath. He didn’t flood the entire earth because He was having a bad day. Sin is the reason why the wrath of God is going to be poured out on the world. Look what Paul says here:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;Colossians 3:5-8 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;5 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Put to death therefore what is earthly in you:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="footnote"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;color:#666666;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;sexual immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;6 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;On account of these the wrath of God is coming.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;&lt;span class="footnote"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9;"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#666666;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9;"&gt;7 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;In these you too once walked, when you were living in them. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;8 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;But now you must put them all away: anger, wrath, malice, slander, and obscene talk from your mouth.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0px"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;Sin is not a small thing in the eyes of God; it is utter rebellion and disrespect to sin against him. Just think if you were raised in a great and loving family, your parents gave you everything you and your siblings wanted. Just say mom cooked the family’s favorite meal after a long and hard day and once dinner is served your brother stands up on the table, kick the food off, curses and then slaps your mom and dad. What would be running through your mind at that time? What do you think would happen to that brother (I am black and I tell you it would have been slow singing and flower bringing, everyone would have on black suits). Sin is infinitely worse than the scenario above. To not preach sin would be the equivalent of everyone going to watch a movie on the couch with a bucket of popcorn after your brother committed these foul acts against your parents. The problem is the consequences are temporal as it relates to your brother, while not understanding the gravity of sin and forthcoming punishment is eternal. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0px"&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0px"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;Nursery Rhyme Christianity is a slap in the face of a crucified savior. To ignore the wrath of God, the hopelessness of man and the gravity of sin is as standing in front of the gates and preventing others from entering in. Paul says in Acts 20 that “I am free of the blood of all man”. Why? Because he says “I did not refrain from preaching the WHOLE counsel of God to you”. The whole counsel includes wrath, hopelessness, sin, and the punishment to follow. The gospel is not palatable. It hurts to hear that you are a sinner, and that you are God’s enemy, but it is the truth and the only way we can understand our depravity and the death that is imminent if left in a state of rebellion.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2955355765700339376-1863163228409625902?l=urban-theologians.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/feeds/1863163228409625902/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2955355765700339376&amp;postID=1863163228409625902' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/1863163228409625902'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/1863163228409625902'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/2007/11/there-has-been-in-me-growing-concern.html' title='The False Doctrine of Neutrality: Nursery Rhyme Christianity'/><author><name>Lionel Woods</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01043784392293311580</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2955355765700339376.post-3003638283977923394</id><published>2007-11-09T08:06:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2007-11-09T08:56:45.207-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Reformed Perspective'/><title type='text'>Calmness Amongst Chaos: What Sovereignty Brings!</title><content type='html'>&lt;img height="311" src="http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9G_RtgvhjRHPxEByl.jzbkF/SIG=11sbot3gb/EXP=1194710959/**http%3A//www.stria.ca/Brochetain/storm.jpg" width="300" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0px"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;The debate about the scope of God’s sovereignty is a historical debate. I am beginning to read a bunch of books by dead theologians and the debate can be summed up to: just how sovereign is God. Well this is not a discussion about this scope; this is more an exhortation to those who agree about this and hopefully encouragement to those who don’t. I will be up front, I agree with those who say that God is 100% sovereign in everything from creation to salvation, to the most minute detail (“the hairs on our head our numbered”) detail of life. I want to explain the peace that comes from such a view of this sovereignty. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;Matthew 8:23-27&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 135%"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;23 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;And when he got into the boat, his disciples followed him. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 135%"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;24 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;And behold, there arose a great storm on the sea, so that the boat was being swamped by the waves; but he was asleep. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 135%"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;25 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;And they went and woke him, saying, “Save us, Lord; we are perishing.” &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 135%"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;26 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;And he said to them, &lt;span class="woc"&gt;“Why are you afraid, O you of little faith?”&lt;/span&gt; Then he rose and rebuked the winds and the sea, and there was a great calm. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 135%"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;27 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;And the men marveled, saying, “What sort of man is this, that even winds and sea obey him?”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0px"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;We all know the story about Christ calming the storm. However, I had never really grasped what was going on. I have read in a few commentaries that these type of storms happened, due to the geography of the area. Storms would blow and capsize boats and it wasn’t unusual for someone to lose their lives if they were caught off guard (many were). As we read this story, Jesus was sleeping like a baby. The storms come and even experienced fisherman who knew about these storms and maybe even navigated through them were afraid for their lives “we are perishing” they said. This was not a hard rain or wind situation, these disciple’s lives flashed before their eyes. They hurry to wake Jesus because of the fear of death. Luke says “the boat was filling with water”. So though Matthew doesn’t mention it, they really were in danger of drowning. Once the boat had sunk it was only a matter of minutes before the current mixed with the storm would overpower them, death was imminent. Marks Gospel records the disciples saying “teacher do you not care that we are perishing” in Mark 4. Jesus arises and says “have you no faith” and calms the storms in the famous “peace be still” verse. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0px"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;I think this was the first glimpse of God’s complete sovereignty even over the elements. This was a chaotic situation. If the disciples had been alone, they were doomed. They were absolutely helpless, and powerless against such a storm. There was only one thing left, appeal to God. It is funny to me that they were surprised that Jesus calmed the storm, but previous to this they beg Him for help. I wonder if that happens to us. We get in a jam and beg God to intervene and when He does, we are caught by surprise. That is another story all together. One thing is for sure, Jesus wasn’t worried one bit.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0px"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;So what does that say to us? We are to have the attitude of Jesus when things happen in our lives that are chaotic. We can rest assured, that the cancer, the disobedient children, the loss job, the insurmountable bills and the sick dog are all part of God’s sovereign will and though it is wreaking havoc in our lives, God is faithful. Listen to Paul in Philippians 4:4-7&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;4 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:9;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;5 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal;font-size:9;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;6 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;do not be anxious about anything,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt; but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal;font-size:9;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;7 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="TEXT-DECORATION: none"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0px"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;Paul wrote this while in prison with the possibility of death, nipping at his heels. Paul was convinced that God was totally sovereign and even said in Chapter 1 of the same epistle “what has happened to me is for the advancement of the Gospel”. God’s sovereignty is the only doctrine that can bring peace in a storm. When life is pressing in on us from every angle we can rest assured that God is at the wheel. “All things work for the good”. Many people would say the storm in Matthew 8, Mark 4 and Luke 8 was just chance, but God says in Isaiah 45:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num1"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;5 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;I am the &lt;span class="small-caps"&gt;Lord&lt;/span&gt;, and there is no other,&lt;br /&gt;besides me there is no God;&lt;br /&gt;I equip you, though you do not know me,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:9;"&gt;6 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;that people may know, from the rising of the sun&lt;br /&gt;and from the west, that there is none besides me;&lt;br /&gt;I am the &lt;span class="small-caps"&gt;Lord&lt;/span&gt;, and there is no other.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:9;"&gt;7 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;I form light and create darkness,&lt;br /&gt;I make well-being and create calamity,&lt;br /&gt;I am the &lt;span class="small-caps"&gt;Lord&lt;/span&gt;, who does all these things&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0px"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;What about physical deformities? Try Exodus 4:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;But Moses said to the &lt;span class="small-caps"&gt;Lord&lt;/span&gt;, “Oh, my Lord, I am not eloquent, either in the past or since you have spoken to your servant, but I am slow of speech and of tongue.” &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="FONT-WEIGHT: normal;font-size:9;" &gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;11 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Then the &lt;span class="small-caps"&gt;Lord&lt;/span&gt; said to him, “Who has made man's mouth? Who makes him mute, or deaf, or seeing, or blind? Is it not I, the &lt;span class="small-caps"&gt;Lord&lt;/span&gt;?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0px"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Times New Roman;"&gt;We have full assurance that any circumstance we find ourselves rather chaotic or calm, that God is in full control, if situations are bad we can appeal to God (Phil 4) if they are good we are to be thankful. But one thing is for sure, we can have peace, because the sovereign hand of God is the Captain of the ship. The situation may not turn out the way we please, but I will leave you with some of the most encouraging scripture written by Paul in 2 Corinthians 4:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 135%"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;7 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;But we have this treasure in jars of clay, to show that the surpassing power belongs to God and not to us. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 135%"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;8 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;We are afflicted in every way, but not crushed; perplexed, but not driven to despair; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 135%"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;9 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;persecuted, but not forsaken; struck down, but not destroyed; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 135%"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;10 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;always carrying in the body the death of Jesus, so that the life of Jesus may also be manifested in our bodies. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 135%"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;11 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;For we who live are always being given over to death for Jesus' sake, so that the life of Jesus also may be manifested in our mortal flesh. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 135%"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;12 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;So death is at work in us, but life in you.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 135%"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;13 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;Since we have the same spirit of faith according to what has been written, “I believed, and so I spoke,” we also believe, and so we also speak, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 135%"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;14 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;knowing that he who raised the Lord Jesus will raise us also with Jesus and bring us with you into his presence. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 135%"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;15 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;For it is all for your sake, so that as grace extends to more and more people it may increase thanksgiving, to the glory of God.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 135%"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;16 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;So we do not lose heart. Though our outer self is wasting away, our inner self is being renewed day by day. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 135%"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;17 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;For this light momentary affliction is preparing for us an eternal weight of glory beyond all comparison, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class="verse-num"&gt;&lt;span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 135%"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Verdana;"&gt;18 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Georgia;"&gt;as we look not to the things that are seen but to the things that are unseen. For the things that are seen are transient, but the things that are unseen are eternal.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2955355765700339376-3003638283977923394?l=urban-theologians.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/feeds/3003638283977923394/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2955355765700339376&amp;postID=3003638283977923394' title='0 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/3003638283977923394'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/3003638283977923394'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/2007/11/calmness-amongst-chaos-what-sovereignty.html' title='Calmness Amongst Chaos: What Sovereignty Brings!'/><author><name>Lionel Woods</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01043784392293311580</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>0</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2955355765700339376.post-5035519973947162585</id><published>2007-10-31T08:30:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-31T08:33:30.084-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Church Life'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Christian Music'/><title type='text'>Gospel "Less" Music</title><content type='html'>&lt;img class="reflect" height="333" alt="" src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/64/215505331_dc88d3bca4.jpg?v=0" width="500" onload="show_notes_initially();" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Let’s start by asking a question. If someone had a steady hand would you allow them to perform brain surgery on you? The obvious answer is no. I use the same argument as it relates to Gospel Music. Just because someone has a beautiful voice by no means deem them qualified to be worship leaders, or even release gospel albums. I have seen some of the most criminal acts being performed on the Word of God by those who make gospel music. Just as the surgeon has to meet qualifications such as med school, a medical board and residency, I believe that a gospel music artist should do the same. Just because someone has musical talents doesn’t mean that should be leading music within the Church (I wanted to reiterate this).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The sad reality is this. I know people who either lead worship, or are involved with the most visible people group within the church behind the pastor who should be disciplined for their lifestyles. Growing up, I knew a guy who had three kids by two different women being the key musical figure in the church I grew up in. Because of his talent people overlooked his sin (they overlooked everyone’s). Those in the forefront of our local fellowships should be examples of Christ first. This should be an automatic DQ! I am seeing whoremongers, adulterers, man and women who are divorced and remarried without biblical grounds, and other related individuals being encouraged instead of admonished, just because of a musical gift.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Next we have people who may meet the moral qualification but have no clue of what the Gospel is. So they sing songs, that are man centered instead of understanding that when we Worship, we are to be worshipping someone. That someone is not we but our God, through Jesus Christ. I hear songs like “Falling in Love with Jesus” (though my worship leader song this Sunday and he is solid as it relates to morality and the Gospel) and we are calling the fellowship together to sing this song? This is a man centered song. We offer nothing to Jesus at best we are singing to one another, at worst we are singing to ourselves. When the Corporate Body comes together we should be humbling ourselves in reverence to our Lord and not singing self-help songs that offer up nothing up to our Savior. Just because the melody is nice and it is an emotion grabber, this should not be how we choose songs for us to worship. I would sometimes rather sing from a Hymnal versus singing man-centered songs. These great man and women of faith understood the Gospel and understood what it meant to worship God. Many of the songs we sing today are from professional singers who are making a killing regurgitating self help garbage that only leads us to more self-centeredness versus a proper view of ourselves in light of the glorious Gospel. That is why we have churches packed with people who believe that they are relatively good, and that goodness is what is going to get them heaven. They believe that “God wants them to be happy” and God’s greatest joy comes from us getting what we want. I personally believe that a non-believer should be extremely convicted by what we sing in worship, not moved. He should here about the cross, atonement, sacrifice, our need of the Gospel, and are hopelessness of attaining that in and of ourselves.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Finally, I want to address professional Christian music artists. It is very rare that you would find anyone of African American decent that has a Christ Centered Album. Kirk has a few songs, but overall it is hit and miss. Fred Hammond is a modalist who believes sitting under Jakes is what is going to help him mature and get some sort of spiritual blessing (Elijah/Elisha). Israel songs makes me want to skip through the field with flowers behind my ears, Yolanda Adam does songs with Kanye and Bone so enough said there, Donnie McClurkin is singing at a TBN praise-a-thon, Juanita done lost her mind, Hezekiah is mentoring Puff Daddy, P-Diddy, or whatever you call him, Mary Mary sings an entire song about Heaven and Jesus is the only person they don’t want to see and my man William Murphy is busy speaking in tongues through his entire album, and is constantly singing Word of Faith hogwash. I don’t know their motives so I will not go there. I do know for sure that a lot of these individuals I listed are millionaires, (J Moss with his Bentley in his videos). Nothing wrong with being a millionaire, but I will ask, how many Wilberforce songs would you play in a club (remember Stomp), or how many of hymnals do you know will get national airplay (Smokie and Donnie Mack) in the middle of heavy rotation? None! Why because they boast about Christ and His accomplished work on the cross. Last year the song of the year was “The blessings of Abraham” by Donald Lawrence. It is a massacre performed on the promise made to Abraham and his future seed. This dude somehow equates this seed to faith and twists faith to be something you just need to speak and wah lah God becomes an instant genie.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I believe we have to become more critical, more people are duped by gospel artist than word of faith preachers everyday (as a matter of fact most of them work hand in hand, remember Kirk went from having R. Kelly on his album to Jakes,  I don’t know which is worse). We have to start drawing a line in the sand, and telling these artist and churches, if they will continue to compromise the Gospel we will have to go our separate ways. Currently there is a muddy mixture which is bound to get someone drowned.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2955355765700339376-5035519973947162585?l=urban-theologians.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/feeds/5035519973947162585/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2955355765700339376&amp;postID=5035519973947162585' title='13 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/5035519973947162585'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/5035519973947162585'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/2007/10/gospel-less-music.html' title='Gospel &quot;Less&quot; Music'/><author><name>Lionel Woods</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01043784392293311580</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>13</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2955355765700339376.post-4175458189191874932</id><published>2007-10-11T18:40:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-11T19:47:21.520-07:00</updated><title type='text'>What is the Greatest Evil?</title><content type='html'>&lt;img height="356" src="http://www.grandcanyonexcursions.com/images/Grand%20Canyon%203.jpg" width="550" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My pastor Jim Elliff on Wednesday has been taking us on a Puritan journey. I really never knew much about Puritan's aside from the fact that I knew they were very isolated-sin fearing people. I have recently listened to some reenacted sermons by John Bunyan which were very insightful and had the great opportunity to read some Puritan writings by Samuel Bolton D.D. and would love to share some insight that has helped me a lot in my relaxed view and tolerance of sin.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I never in my life have read anyone(recent) who views sin the way these people do and it was revelatory for me to see sin through this new view in which it has really helped me see my depravity in light of a Holy, Righteous, and Just God. How much so has sin become common place in our life, actions, conduct, and attitude. Sin, now think without a shadow of a doubt is the greatest evil unmatched forever. We have in our culture become so numb to sin that when we see it-it does not make us cringe as it should. Our love for God should make us have a unmatched hatred toward sin to the highest possible degree.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One sin and one sin only separated us from God permanently if it were not for the Grace of Our Lord Jesus Christ-The Great Mediator, High Priest, Wonderful Counselor, Great I AM, and The  Righteous One. I will forever love Him with all my heart, mind, and soul.  I think of all the Jehovah Witness', Mormons, Muslims, and other cults and feel sorry for them because they honestly think they can bridge the gap between God and men by doing futile works. See what Isaiah says about this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Isaiah 64:6&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt; But we are all as an unclean [thing], and all our righteousnesses [are] as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the Hebrew filthy rags as I am sure you already know are speaking about menstrual rags from the monthly cycle of a woman. Women you know how filthy that is and men who have been around women or who are married know how disgusting it is. This is how our human righteousness comes before God if you are not saved through the blood of Christ.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Isaiah 30:1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; Woe to the rebellious children, saith the LORD, that take counsel, but not of me; and that cover with a covering, but not of my spirit, that they may add sin to sin:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here is a quote from Bolton in his paper. &lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;"They add the sin of their righteousness to the sin of their unrighteousness. They cover a blot with a blot-they add sin to sin, dung to dung" &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;You see-without the work of Christ we are hopeless. Imagine trying to run full speed and try to jump over the Grand Canyon or better yet trying to leap from here to the moon with no assistance whatsoever-just your feeble legs. Impossible right! Even more so trying to reach God without Christ. Bolton also quotes &lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Gal 3:17&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt; And this I say, [that] the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;He says: to show that we must not work that we may be justified, but be justified that we may work.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Bolton says that all the righteousness(aside from God) that enveloped the angels in heaven before the fall was not enough to outweigh that of one sin that got them cast out of heaven.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"The least sin deserves and draws down an infinite wrath which neither you, nor all the angles in heaven, are able to stand under. The damned bear it in hell. They bear it and cannot bear it. They are slain with it but cannot die. Ever consuming, never consumed. And therefore, how much are you bound to CHRIST! who has borne sin, a greater evil than all other evils, and with sin, all the torments, wrath, and justice due to sin.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Praise God for His mighty works!! Read this wonderful Psalm 32 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:180%;"&gt;Blessed Are the Forgiven&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;32:1 Blessed is the one whose transgression is forgiven,whose sin is covered.2 Blessed is the man against whom the Lord counts no iniquity,and in whose spirit there is no deceit.&lt;br /&gt;3 For when I kept silent, my bones wasted awaythrough my groaning all day long.4 For day and night your hand was heavy upon me;my strength was dried up &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a id="b2" title="Hebrew 'my vitality was changed'" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Psalm+32+#f2"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;[2]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt; as by the heat of summer. Selah&lt;br /&gt;5 I acknowledged my sin to you,and I did not cover my iniquity;I said, “I will confess my transgressions to the Lord,”and you forgave the iniquity of my sin. Selah&lt;br /&gt;6 Therefore let everyone who is godlyoffer prayer to you at a time when you may be found;surely in the rush of great waters,they shall not reach him.7 You are a hiding place for me;you preserve me from trouble;you surround me with shouts of deliverance. Selah&lt;br /&gt;8 I will instruct you and teach you in the way you should go;I will counsel you with my eye upon you.9 Be not like a horse or a mule, without understanding,which must be curbed with bit and bridle,or it will not stay near you.&lt;br /&gt;10 Many are the sorrows of the wicked,but steadfast love surrounds the one who trusts in the Lord.11 Be glad in the Lord, and rejoice, O righteous,and shout for joy, all you upright in heart!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2955355765700339376-4175458189191874932?l=urban-theologians.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/feeds/4175458189191874932/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2955355765700339376&amp;postID=4175458189191874932' title='2 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/4175458189191874932'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/4175458189191874932'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/2007/10/what-is-greatest-evil.html' title='What is the Greatest Evil?'/><author><name>Mr. Horton Sr.</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/08830056301269346510</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='23' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_63geb05jnuU/R5WZXOVyAFI/AAAAAAAAAIc/iKqxzvnoCIc/S220/2008-2.jpg'/></author><thr:total>2</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2955355765700339376.post-6571775182899015491</id><published>2007-10-08T14:01:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-08T14:03:31.652-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Current issues'/><title type='text'>What does Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and Jaleel White all have in Common?</title><content type='html'>&lt;img height="287" src="http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9G_RtvymgpHvkwBsh2jzbkF/SIG=12gspnpcs/EXP=1191963762/**http%3A//www.fresh99.com/images/steveurkelscar/jaleelwhite.jpg" width="197" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;They are all actors. Jackson and Sharpton care no more about blacks than White cares about Laura. He was an actor (Steve Urkel) and so are the two men who are supposed to be the face of the “new” civil rights movement (yeah right). This became apparent after the Jena Six issue became a front runner in every National and Local newspaper. You  may want to know my utter disgust with ol’ Sharpie and J.J, and it will be obvious before the end of this post, but just to give you an idea, I believe they take advantage of blacks in bad situations for publicity not for the concern of black America. Let me tell you why.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We are having an epidemic in Philly right now. I believe last week the 303rd person was murdered. The murder rate for blacks in philly is 6 times the national average. 30 in 100,00 versus 5 in 100,000. The national black murder rate is 19 in 100,000, 4 times the national average. Now while Mr. Sharpie and J.J are parading around the cameras, getting Don Imus fired, blacks are expiring brutally by the hands of other blacks. As I saw tens of thousands of blacks march on the Jena 6 issue, I haven’t seen a finger being raised nationally against this epidemic. We are dying by our own hands, while simultaneously prisons can’t be built quick enough to house us. Is no one concerned about that. I don’t see these clowns, nor many churches coming together to pray and seek God’s will on this. I guess keep the monkeys in the concrete jungle and let them kill each other off, right? Blacks are busy debating who has the hottest album 50 or Kanye, and we have a national program in place for people to slim down, but forget slimming down, how about trying to stay alive while walking to school. Earlier this year I believe a 28 year old woman was shot and killed trying to get her daughter out of the way of gunfire. We have the elderly blacks locking their doors and not coming outside to even sit on their porch. They are prisoners in their own homes. This shouldn’t be folks. This is unacceptable. Our young people are dying and we are caught up in some plumb foolishness.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So where is Al, on BET, where is Jesse, who knows. While the NAACP is giving out awards for best show, our young men and women are dying and being convicted for life prison terms. You see why the young adults can care less about Civil Rights? We don’t see things getting better through what these people are doing. Why invest my money in these institutions that are only a shell of their former selves?  Why should we care about Sharpie and his perm or Jesse and his illegitimate child?  Where is Oprah folks? She is building schools in Africa and had the hip hop issue on her show, but what about her own back yard? Things aren’t much better in Chicago either. Ah, but there is hope folks.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hope is in Jesus Christ. The black church has an obligation to support and come along churches in Philly who have a heart for this. The Gospel is the answer folks. However, that Gospel has to be lived out. We are commanded to provide for the widows and orphans. This stuff takes money and we may have to give up our daily Starbucks to send money, if that is only $20 per month. I will be in the process of researching some churches up there that may need financial support in order to transform their communities. I will post it here in the near future. Instead of building those Gym or aerobics centers in our church (why not go to 24 hours and meet non-believers anyway?) how about we invest that in training up leaders to make an impact for our Lord Jesus? We have to step up folks, if anyone knows of churches holding it down post it here and we can get some type of network started. These people need us, the people who want to see change and are trusting God needs us. Jesus says “what you do to the least of these you have done to me”.  Let’s build His Church.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2955355765700339376-6571775182899015491?l=urban-theologians.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/feeds/6571775182899015491/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2955355765700339376&amp;postID=6571775182899015491' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/6571775182899015491'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/6571775182899015491'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/2007/10/what-does-jesse-jackson-al-sharpton-and.html' title='What does Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and Jaleel White all have in Common?'/><author><name>Lionel Woods</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01043784392293311580</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2955355765700339376.post-2584029785947381360</id><published>2007-10-05T20:09:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2007-10-05T20:26:01.163-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Church Life'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Children in ministry'/><title type='text'>How Should We Treat Our Children Who are Non-believers?</title><content type='html'>&lt;img height="172" src="http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9iby4Lv_wZH3VABu0CjzbkF/SIG=12kqljav9/EXP=1191727471/**http%3A//www.calvary-baptistchurch.org/images/headers/children.jpg" width="261" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have been listening and reading stuff from the guys at &lt;a href="http://www.ids.org/"&gt;www.ids.org&lt;/a&gt; for over a year now. They are New Covenant Theologians who have a passion for Reformed Baptist Theology. I absolutely love these guys, they have been such a blessing to me. &lt;a href="http://ids.org/ids/pdf/applied/children.pdf"&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt; is a paper they wrote on how to deal with your nonbelieving children in the context of Church. They bring up some very interesting points, that I really never even considered. Here are a few.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. We should not let our children lead worship (you know children choirs) unless they are believers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2. We should not treat them as believers (i.e Lord's Supper, serving in the ministry, and other church related functions).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3. We should not let them lead prayers, for they are nonbelievers (unless of course that is a prayer of repentenance)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These are just a few. I had a few objections that I emailed them about and I am waiting for a response. As for now let me know what you think. God bless.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/2955355765700339376-2584029785947381360?l=urban-theologians.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='replies' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/feeds/2584029785947381360/comments/default' title='Post Comments'/><link rel='replies' type='text/html' href='http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2955355765700339376&amp;postID=2584029785947381360' title='3 Comments'/><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/2584029785947381360'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2955355765700339376/posts/default/2584029785947381360'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://urban-theologians.blogspot.com/2007/10/how-should-we-treat-our-children-who.html' title='How Should We Treat Our Children Who are Non-believers?'/><author><name>Lionel Woods</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/01043784392293311580</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:total>3</thr:total></entry></feed>
